Goblin Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 According to the SFI (POH), SA06 HÖJD mode is disengaged by selecting ATT and ATT is disengaged by selecting SPAK. Selecting SPAK also disengages both ATT and HÖJD, if active. SPAK is disengaged by the SNURK on the stick, or by pulling the circuit breaker. This also disengages ATT and HÖJD, since SPAK must be active for those two modes. In DCS Viggen, you can disengage HÖJD by selecting HÖJD and selecting ATT disengages both ATT and HÖJD. Has this been confirmed as a bug? SNURK seems to work as described, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Hi. I don't exactly get what you're saying (I'm a bit tired), but here's a post I made a while ago about issues with the autopilot modes activation: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4010689&postcount=6 Maybe you can start from there to show how it's supposed to work in real life. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 SPAK, ATT and HÖJD modes are all cancelled by selecting the lower mode, according to the Pilots Operating Manual. But doing that in DCS also cancels the lower mode that you are selecting, and that can’t be right. Example. SPAK, ATT, HÖJD modes are engaged. I want to cancel HÖJD mode and selects ATT. This should just cancel HÖJD, but in DCS it also cancels ATT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Ah, now I see what you mean! Thanks. :) Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 So, has this bug been reported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 So, has this bug been reported? No, it seems it hasn't been reported before. RagnarDa, can you please take a look? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 @IronMike Has this been considered as a bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 This is still an issue. I just noticed that pressing HÖJD (when activated) also cancels ATT. I don’t know if it has been logged as a bug or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 @Goblin We have this issue listed in our community-made bug list. We have sent it to Heatblur for review. 1 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted March 7, 2021 Author Share Posted March 7, 2021 Thanks, @Flappie As long as HB is aware, they can fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 This is still an issue in 2.7. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Fixed in todays update! And what an update..!! Well done Heatblur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goblin Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) I may have spoken too soon… Now you can cancel the ATT and HÖJD by selecting the lower mode. I.e. if ATT and HÖJD is engaged, you can press ATT to cancel HÖJD, or you can press SPAK to cancel both ATT and HÖJD. This is correct behaviour. However, you can also cancel SPAK, ATT and HÖJD by selecting the respective mode. I.e. you can cancel HÖJD by pressing HÖJD again. Same with ATT. And, you can also cancel SPAK by pressing SPAK. According to the SFI (The aircraft operating manual) SPAK can only be cancelled by pressing SNURK on the stick, or by pulling the circuit breaker. But at least it is now possible to use the Styrautomat as intended, even if there are some extra features Edited December 25, 2021 by Goblin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) Question 1: "SNURK" is the "Autopilot disconnect" button described in RC2 on page 22 ? Question 2: Is - or should - this button be mapped to the action in the controls-setup "Autopilot quick disengage"? I guess so ... As a Warthog user I found out the following a few minutes ago (how could I have overseen this for years ... The grey-colored "Flaps" 3-position switch on the most left side of the throttle base can be used pretty fine for actions "Autopilot HÖJD/ATT" (forward) and action "Autopilot SPAK/ATT" (rearward) pretty fine. This eliminates some of the difficulties in mapping switches and buttons. I am not a cockpit-mouse-clicker-type-pilot, I use more the controls ... just because otherwise they became unused Edited July 5, 2022 by TOViper Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) On 7/6/2022 at 12:20 AM, TOViper said: Question 1: "SNURK" is the "Autopilot disconnect" button described in RC2 on page 22 ? That should be it, yes. On 7/6/2022 at 12:20 AM, TOViper said: Question 2: Is - or should - this button be mapped to the action in the controls-setup "Autopilot quick disengage"? I guess so ... I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Autopilot quick disengage is this very button (SNURK). @Goblin SPAK/ATT/HÖJD being disengageable through it's own push-buttons is reported. Edited July 11, 2022 by QuiGon 1 Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) Regarding the action "SAS mode SPAK flight stabilizer": In the real aircraft, does this action turn OFF the SPAK or does it just cancel the ATT or HÖJD if they (or one of them) were (was) engaged? In DCS this action at first activation disables any ATT or HÖJD, and at second activation it turns off SPAK. According to Goblin's post I assume it is wrong behaviour in DCS. Edited July 10, 2022 by TOViper Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 hours ago, TOViper said: Regarding the action "SAS mode SPAK flight stabilizer": In the real aircraft, does this action turn OFF the SPAK or does it just cancel the ATT or HÖJD if they (or one of them) were (was) engaged? In DCS this action at first activation disables any ATT or HÖJD, and at second activation it turns off SPAK. According to Goblin's post I assume it is wrong behaviour in DCS. Yes, this seems to be wrong, as it should not be possible to disable SPAK through its own push button. The only possible way to disable SPAK should be through the SNURK button on the stick (AP disconnect) or by pulling the respective CB. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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