Avimimus Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Given that the Mirage F1, Mig-23, F-4, and A-7 have been announced the following are the most numerous missing British, French, American, and Russian combat aircraft... In thousands produced... Western Fighters: 5.2 F-4 / 1.37 for F-4E (under development, Heatblur) 4.0 Meteors / 1.55 Meteor F.8 3.25 Vampires 2.5 F-104 (under development, Aerges) 2.3 F-100 (under development, Grinnelli Designs) 2.0 Hunters 1.98 F9F Cougars 1.38 F9F Panthers 1.7 F-80 1.4 Mirage III 1.4 Venoms 1.05 F-89 1.22 F-8 (under development, Magnitude 3 LLC) 1.00 F-102 0.89 F2H 0.80 F-101 0.57 M.D.450 Ouragan 0.57 Eurofighter Typhoon (under development, Heatblur) 0.54 Sea Hawk 0.51 F3H 0.43 Javelin 0.42 F4D 0.41 M.D.452 Mystere IV 0.34 F-106 0.33 EE Lightning (possibly planned, RAZBAM) 0.20 F-11F 0.19 Tornado ADV 0.18 Super Mystere B2 0.15 Sea Vixen Western Attackers: 7.5 F-84 3.4 F-84F 3.2 A-1 (under development, Crosstail Studios) 3.0 A-4 2.0 B-47 1.54 A-7 (under development, FlyingIron Simulations) 0.95 Canberra (possibly planned as AI, RAZBAM) 0.83 F-105 0.77 G.91 (under development, India Foxtrot Echo) 0.75 Tornado IDS (under development, AviaStorm) 0.7 A-6 (under development, Heatblur) 0.58 A-37 Dragonfly 0.58 Mirage 5 (possibly planned AI) 0.56 F-111 0.54 Jaguar 0.45 Gnat 0.4 B-57B 0.21 Buccaneer 0.20 AMX Warsaw pact: 10.0 Mig-17 (under development, Red Star Simulations) 5.0 Mig-23 (under development, RAZBAM) 2.9 Su-17 (under development, no license yet) 2.0 Il-28 1.8 Su-7B 1.7 Yak-28 1.5 Su-15 1.5 Tu-16 1.2 Mig-25 (Exists as AI) 1.16 Su-9 1.07 Mig-27 (Exists as AI) 0.59 Mig-9 0.42 TS-11 Iskra (under development, not license yet). [...] 0.23 Yak-38 0.23 La-15 0.15 Yak-130 China: 0.55 J-10 0.41 J-8 (under development, Deka Ironworks Simulations) 0.27 JH-7 Independent: 0.65 Draken (planned AI, Heatblur) 0.45 Saab 32 Lansen 0.27 Gripen 0.2 Kfir (under development, Aviron) 0.19 Saab 105 Helicopters: 5.5 Mi-2 4.7 OH-6 4.0 UH-60 4.0 Mi-4 2.46 H-34/Wessex 2.2 OH-58 (under development, Polychop Studios) 2.0 Alouette III 1.5 H-19 1.5 Bo-105 (under development, MilTech-5) 1.3 Alouette II 1.3 SH-3 1.3 AH-1 twincobra/supercobra 1.2 CH-47 (under development, ED) 1.1 AH-1 single engined versions 0.93 Mi-6 0.45 Lynx 0.4 V-22 0.2 EC655 / Eurocopter Tiger 0.2 Ka-52 0.19 Z-19 0.18 Z-10 0.13 Mi-28 Note: Helicopters with no armed variants were left out (e.g. 4.6 Bell 47, 2.6 Mi-1) Note: For a couple of these - most notably the Meteor - the differences between airframes are so extensive they should really be counted as consisting of multiple types. Also, quite interestingly, most of the missing aircraft after this initial list would be Korean War era US Navy aircraft. Note: Aircraft listed run from approximately 1948-1988 (excepting helicopters). WWII aircraft aren't listed, nor are aircraft which are too modern to model successfully. It is also important to note that some aircraft listed are too classified to model (most long ranged bombers fall into this category). Edited December 30, 2023 by Avimimus 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 -F-4E has on hold and planned by ED to 2-3 years incoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I can think of so many more interesting qualities in an aircraft, than just the quantities produced. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avimimus Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 I can think of so many more interesting qualities in an aircraft, than just the quantities produced. Certainly! I can think of quite a few aircraft that remained design studies, but which I'd love to see simulated. However, number produced is a rough first approximation of historical importance! If one wants to model a hypothetical air-war for a certain period of time... leaving out some of the most numerous aircraft isn't a good idea. For instance, a 1950s European war should have the B-47 and Il-28. Vietnam should have the Mig-17 and A-1. Korea should have the F-84 and F-84F... at least as AI aircraft! -F-4E has on hold and planned by ED to 2-3 years incoming. Corrected. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavagai Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Western Fighters: 4.0 Meteors 3.25 Vampire :megalol: 1 P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 However, number produced is a rough first approximation of historical importance!. Then DCS needs quite a lot more WW2 aircrafts, I can think of at least a couple of dozen produced in larger numbers than 90% of the OP list :D For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernbear Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Then DCS needs quite a lot more WW2 aircrafts, I can think of at least a couple of dozen produced in larger numbers than 90% of the OP list :D If Nick gets his way this will be the case. Nick took over the Company when his business partner passed away but it has always only been a passion project for him. Hes openly stated that he much prefers WW2 aerial combat then Modern air combat which is why we got WW2 aircraft in the first place. I expect we'll see much more even before any of the aircraft listed in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_sukebe Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Interesting list, thanks OP System: 9700, 64GB DDR4, 2070S, NVME2, Rift S, Jetseat, Thrustmaster F18 grip, VPC T50 stick base and throttle, CH Throttle, MFG crosswinds, custom button box, Logitech G502 and Marble mouse. Server: i5 2500@3.9Ghz, 1080, 24GB DDR3, SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 If Nick gets his way this will be the case. Nick took over the Company when his business partner passed away but it has always only been a passion project for him. Hes openly stated that he much prefers WW2 aerial combat then Modern air combat which is why we got WW2 aircraft in the first place. I expect we'll see much more even before any of the aircraft listed in the OP. That actually makes it even more confusing that ED seems so completely disinterested in making any iconic cold war era planes. At least to me it seems like that would be a 'middle ground' sort of thing to bring together jet and WW2 communities both in players and developers. But maybe that's just not true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 ED seems so completely disinterested in making any iconic cold war era planes. ? They did the Mig-15 and the F-86 ... what is more iconic? And a 3rd party did the Mig-21 and the Viggen, so "any" seems a bit exaggerated. But I’d love to have more, of course :thumbup: like an EE Lightning and the F-4 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayrayblues Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 For Korean war, The iconic F9F Panther comes to mind which was carrier based. We could use more carrier capable aircraft now that we have the Supercarrier module. Speaking of carriers, how about WWll carriers like the Enterprise or Yorktown? Of course then we would need planes like the F4F, F6F, F8F, TBD, F4U, et al. 2 SLAVA UKRAINI MoBo - ASUS 990FX R2 Sabertooth, CPU - AMD FX 9590 @4.7Gb. No OC RAM - GSkill RipJaws DDR3 32 Gb @2133 MHZ, GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6Gb DDR5 OC'd, Core 180MHz, Memory 800MHz Game drive - Samsung 980 M.2 EVO 1Tb SSD, OS Drive - 860 EVO 500Gb SATA SSD, Win10 Pro 22H2 Controls - Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X, Monitor - LG 32" 1920 X 1080, PSU - Prestige ATX-PR800W PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kang Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 ? They did the Mig-15 and the F-86 ... what is more iconic? And a 3rd party did the Mig-21 and the Viggen, so "any" seems a bit exaggerated. But I’d love to have more, of course :thumbup: like an EE Lightning and the F-4 Well, those were both made by Belsimtek and at least here everyone keeps quoting that they recently stated that they had zero interest in making any more of the ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avimimus Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Well, those were both made by Belsimtek and at least here everyone keeps quoting that they recently stated that they had zero interest in making any more of the ilk. Wasn't the big plot twist that Belsimtek actually is Eagle Dynamics? Also... at the rate they are going they'll have to start modelling the Korean War in four or six years... as they'll have modeled most other numerous/popular aircraft (unless they spend a lot of time on WW2). Interesting list, thanks OP Thanks! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avimimus Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 Updated with helicopters and currently planned modules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozon Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The early frenchy fighters are missing from the list (numbers by wikipedia): 0.57 M.D.450 Ouragan 0.41 M.D.452 Mystere IV 0.18 Super Mystere B2 1 “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markom Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Sad there is no 737 mentioned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avimimus Posted August 30, 2022 Author Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) On 8/23/2022 at 4:26 AM, Bozon said: The early frenchy fighters are missing from the list (numbers by wikipedia): Fixed! Yeah, originally I was working from a list of most produced aircraft and then filling in gaps, but there may be a number of types with less than one thousand produced which are missing form the list (e.g. Buccaneer 0.21, Sea Vixen 0.15). On 8/27/2022 at 9:40 PM, markom said: Sad there is no 737 mentioned here. Civilian alas., so not included Also, I included no WWII aircraft... that list would be longer Edited August 30, 2022 by Avimimus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremspropeller Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 10:26 AM, Bozon said: The early frenchy fighters are missing from the list (numbers by wikipedia): 0.57 M.D.450 Ouragan 0.41 M.D.452 Mystere IV 0.18 Super Mystere B2 Give this man a medal! 1 So ein Feuerball, JUNGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Fulcrum Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Very nice list, I'd like to add some planes, feel free to pick whatever you want. Western Fighters: 1.98 F9F Cougar 1.38 F9F Panther 1.05 F-89 1.00 F-102 0.89 F2H 0.80 F-101 Warsaw Pact: 1.07 Mig-27 0.59 Mig-9 These are just the most produced but the list could go on: 0.54 Sea Hawk 0.51 F3H 0.45 Saab 32 Lansen 0.43 Javelin 0.42 F4D 0.34 F-106 0.33 EE Lightning (planned) 0.23 La-15 0.21 Buccaneer 0.20 F-11F 0.20 AMX Ok I stop with 200 produced Edited August 31, 2022 by Mig Fulcrum 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avimimus Posted August 31, 2022 Author Share Posted August 31, 2022 Updated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mig Fulcrum Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minuto fa, Avimimus ha scritto: Updated! Nice, but the AMX is an attacker, not a fighter lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgie79 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Cessna 172. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Hoss Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 P-38 Lightning P-39/P-400 P-40 F6F HELLCAT F4F Wildcat Dauntless SBD TBF Avenger SB2C F7F Tigercat Seafires Sea Fury A6M & Float version Ki-84 Ki-61 Betty Okinawa Solomons CVE/CVL IJN Carrier/Escorts JMTCW!! 3 Sempre Fortis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evoman Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 9:40 PM, markom said: Sad there is no 737 mentioned here. You probably would have better luck requesting military variants around here like the KC-46 Pegasus that would actually be of use in a combat flight sim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 9/7/2020 at 6:57 PM, Rudel_chw said: ? They did the Mig-15 and the F-86 ... what is more iconic? Belsimtek did them to be fair. Thus, I believe ED being uninterested in making Cold War aircraft is a very much accurate observation, sadly. 1 Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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