3080 reviews are out

[GunSlingerAUS]

The benchmarks are now live. It seems we can expect the 3080 to deliver around a 20% to 30% performance increase in traditionally rendered gfx engines. Ie, non-Rtx. over the 2080 Ti. This probably isn't enough to push my Reverb to 60fps minimum, which is required to remove the need for asynchronous reprojection. However, it may be enough for other HMDs, though I'm not familiar with their baseline performance.

 

So have the reviews sobered your expectations for VR and the 3000 series? Personally, as a 2080 Ti owner it's not quite the leap I need. I think the 3090 *might* just scrape in with 60fps. But at US$1500, it's a big *might*. On the other hand, if you are running a 1080 or 2080 (non-Ti, non-Super), then the performance increase should be substantial across most games - whether that is true of DCS is yet to be seen.

 

Can't wait to see what VR results you folks get with the 3080. Would be fantastic to see some kind of standardised tests. Pssst, ED, a simple benchmark tool would once again be welcome!

Edited September 16, 2020 by GunSlingerAUS

[Leader98]

Any reviews of the new 3080 cards in combination with VR are most welcome!

[Goa]

Any reviews of the new 3080 cards in combination with VR are most welcome!

 

 

MRTV youtube channel is going to bench all 30x series with the G2 and other headset avaialble on the market as well, including DCS;)

[Goa]

The benchmarks are now live. It seems we can expect the 3080 to deliver around a 20% to 30% performance increase in traditionally rendered gfx engines. Ie, non-Rtx. over the 2080 Ti. This probably isn't enough to push my Reverb to 60fps minimum, which is required to remove the need for asynchronous reprojection. However, it may be enough for other HMDs, though I'm not familiar with their baseline performance. Also, if you're running the 2018 non-Ti or 1080 series, the performance increase is much more impressive, as expected.

 

So have the reviews sobered your expectations for VR and the 3000 series? Personally, as a 2080 Ti owner it's not quite the leap I need. I think the 3090 *might* just scrape in with 60fps. But at US$1500, it's a big *might*.

 

Can't wait to see what VR results you folks get with the 3080. Would be fantastic to see some kind of standardised tests. Pssst, ED, a simple benchmark tool would once again be welcome!

 

 

 

 

LEAKED Benchmarks from videocardz.com were correct.

 

 

All those fools who sold their 2080ti for a 400 or 500 USD basis on initial nvidia claims have been fully deceived.:megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol:

[GunSlingerAUS]

MRTV youtube channel is going to bench all 30x series with the G2 and other headset avaialble on the market as well, including DCS;)

 

Ooh, can't wait! The 3080 does deliver upwards of 30% performance increase over the 2080 Ti in a very small number of games, so who knows, DCS could surprise. It is interesting to see that MSFS 2020 doesn't see much of a performance increase though.

[Mud]

It is interesting to see that MSFS 2020 doesn't see much of a performance increase though.

 

 

DX11 and on Gamers Nexus they stated that MSFS had 1 CPU core also maxed out at 100%.

[Waxer]

Ooh, can't wait! The 3080 does deliver upwards of 30% performance increase over the 2080 Ti in a very small number of games, so who knows, DCS could surprise. It is interesting to see that MSFS 2020 doesn't see much of a performance increase though.

 

Summary of Hardware unboxed benchmarks, across 14ish mainstream games (one of them is MSFT 2000):

 

3080 vs 2080 Ti

1440p +21% fps average (range +3% to +33%)

4K +32% (range +22% to +43%)

 

Seen nothing so far benchmarking VR. Seen nothing so far benchmarking DCS. DEFINITELY seen nothing benchmarking DCS in 4K VR. But at least those numbers give us something to go on.

[GunSlingerAUS]

DX11 and on Gamers Nexus they stated that MSFS had 1 CPU core also maxed out at 100%.

 

Yeah, I saw he mentioned that, but other reviews didn't point this out. They also showed a very small performance increase in MSFS. Did you get the feeling that Gamers Nexus focused a bit too much on their new tests (cold plate pressure, and hints of that fancy air flow chamber thingy), rather than the performance tests we care about?

 

I think hardware unboxed is the best review I've seen so far - Jay Z 2 Cents wasn't bad either, which is a surprise to me as I usually find his videos junk.

[Waxer]

DX11 and on Gamers Nexus they stated that MSFS had 1 CPU core also maxed out at 100%.

 

@1440p

Not at 4K

[Supmua]

Performance gap is wider at Ultra setting for MSFS (GURU3D), however, it is still somewhat poor. The 2080Ti, in comparison, at 4K ultra only achieved 35 fps. It is somewhat premature to use that game as a baseline since it's new and bug-ridden.

 

Too bad none of those reputable tech sites are testing DCS with it.

[Waxer]

Good point. Plus the fps or % increase is not just the only relevant issue. You can make a strong case that 35 fps and minimums below 30fps, is only just playable. Whereas something more consistent with 40 fps becomes are more comfortable experience for a flight sim.(Obviously both unacceptably low for a first person shooter type game).

[Supmua]

Work's been crazy so I won't have time to watch/read/digest all of these reviews until tonight, but it seems to me that this is a decent upgrade if you are moving up from the 2080 or 1080/Ti. The generation to generation performance gap is bigger than the 20 series over the 10, which was kind of lackluster. The pricing is also good for the performance that you get. This card might even be more popular with the miners.

[Taz1004]

All 3080 out of stock. :cry:

[wrl11]

Out of stock seconds after launch. Crazy.

[TBAR]

There is one left on ebay, current price $75,400

[Supmua]

No surprise here. The demand is very high. This is the lower tier card that crushes the 2080Ti, and at a much cheaper price. Hopefully the demand won’t be this bad for the 3090 so I can get my order in.

[FoxTwo]

No surprise here. The demand is very high. This is the lower tier card that crushes the 2080Ti, and at a much cheaper price. Hopefully the demand won’t be this bad for the 3090 so I can get my order in.

 

Crushes?

 

Beats. At 4k. By 10-30% depending on the game engine.

 

It's good but let's not be hyperbolic, the 3080 appeal is primarily the price point.

[hansangb]

Crushes?

 

Beats. At 4k. By 10-30% depending on the game engine.

 

It's good but let's not be hyperbolic, the 3080 appeal is primarily the price point.

 

 

But the price point *IS* a considerable factor. Otherwise, we'd all be going for RTX8000's! :D

[SharpeXB]

It is interesting to see that MSFS 2020 doesn't see much of a performance increase though.

That’s because MSFS is main thread limited on even the strongest CPUs. VR is inherently CPU limited in most circumstances so in that case there would be no gain going to a 3080.

[Tom Kazansky]

Does anyone know if there is a big difference in PCIe 3.0 and 4.0 with a RTX3080? i.e. will I have to upgrade my motherboard too?

[imacken]

VR is inherently CPU limited in most circumstances so in that case there would be no gain going to a 3080.

 

Again, I'll ask, why do some people keep saying this?

 

It all depends on your hardware and settings whether your DCS is CPU or GPU bound. I am GPU bound 90% of the time.

[FoxTwo]

Does anyone know if there is a big difference in PCIe 3.0 and 4.0 with a RTX3080? i.e. will I have to upgrade my motherboard too?

 

 

No appreciable difference.

[Tom Kazansky]

No appreciable difference.

 

 

thanks. i will keep an eye on that.

 

 

EDIT: there are some test that show zero difference. Some say PCIe 4.0 is not supportet by (Intel) CPUs yet. We'll see...

Edited September 17, 2020 by Tom Kazansky

[imacken]

thanks. i will keep an eye on that.

 

 

EDIT: there are some test that show zero difference. Some say PCIe 4.0 is not supportet by (Intel) CPUs yet. We'll see...

 

Yep, various posts on this show that basically there is almost no difference.

[Waxer]

Does anyone know if there is a big difference in PCIe 3.0 and 4.0 with a RTX3080? i.e. will I have to upgrade my motherboard too?

 

Hardware Unboxed specifically addressed this question. There are one of two slides that summarise the results of their testing. 1) They did X570 board using PCIe 4.0 x 16; then tested PCIe 3.0 x 16.

 

Result:

4K literally no difference.

1440p c.2%

1080p c.4%

 

But literally no one will be buying a 3080 for 1080p And even for 1440p a 3080 is overkill unless you are using it for e-sport first person shooters. At the 4K resolution the 3080 is best suited to there is no difference

 

2) They also tested X570 vs Z490.

 

Result: At 4K near identical performance as GPU bound. And below 4K the speed of the Intel chips cancelled out the small advantage of PCIe 4.0.

 

So dead heat effectively at 1080p, 1440p and 4K.

 

NVidia's SSD RTX I/O tech could change the maths on that for new titles.