TaxDollarsAtWork Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 11 hours ago, F-2 said: Their was an SU-35UB which is a MKK with Bars Radar and Canards if your looking to add upgrades. Never went into service but almost the same plane if your looking for options. 801 is an interesting plane really, I'd love to see it in game. It was originally pitched as an MKK avionics wise with an airframe closer to that of an MKI, from what I saw of the movie he did flip a switch and did post stall maneuvers one would only see from something like a Su-30SM. Can't tell if that is Ruskiwood magic or that it actually had TVC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/23/2021 at 3:26 AM, TaxDollarsAtWork said: 801 is an interesting plane really, I'd love to see it in game. It was originally pitched as an MKK avionics wise with an airframe closer to that of an MKI, from what I saw of the movie he did flip a switch and did post stall maneuvers one would only see from something like a Su-30SM. Can't tell if that is Ruskiwood magic or that it actually had TVC It also would have been the basis of the Avibras-Sukhoi Su-35BR for Brazil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 1:19 AM, Mike_Romeo said: Su-30 is still in the race guys Hmm, this is quite interesting. I'm still a Fulcrum fan, but Flankers are adequate, if sub/optimal 2 Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcedVenom Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I really hope they do what people want and pull through on delivering an Su-30MKK. A full fidelity, multicrew Sukhoi, but better yet, a Chinese Flanker?! I would be in heaven! In my personal opinion, I hope we don't get a Q-5 only because we already have the MiG-19P and it's too similar in my eyes. I would much prefer a J-7II or J-8II, but that's only if they refuse to take the deep dive and develop one of the most highly-requested modules in DCS. I hope we get some kind of news soon about what they are planning or decide to do next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Maybe, but no one retires on flight sim module money. You got to do what you want, what makes business sense etc. I’m not big on older jets myself but their is for sure a market. Even if the MKK is the biggest seller Deka could make, I think it would be the most expensive and time consuming. The Jeff sounds like it was grueling and they may very well need a break from the super complex modern jets. I don’t think them picking another jet would permanently close off another. by the way I think they are in need of Aerodynamic data. Found a handful of Papers about wind tunnel and CDF simulation for the MKI but no MKK. If you come across anything like that send it to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcedVenom Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) On 3/13/2021 at 5:32 AM, F-2 said: Maybe, but no one retires on flight sim module money. You got to do what you want, what makes business sense etc. I’m not big on older jets myself but their is for sure a market. Even if the MKK is the biggest seller Deka could make, I think it would be the most expensive and time consuming. The Jeff sounds like it was grueling and they may very well need a break from the super complex modern jets. I don’t think them picking another jet would permanently close off another. by the way I think they are in need of Aerodynamic data. Found a handful of Papers about wind tunnel and CDF simulation for the MKI but no MKK. If you come across anything like that send it to them! MKI and MKK are pretty close no? MKK is just Chinese version is it not? Edited March 14, 2021 by IcedVenom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-2 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, IcedVenom said: MKI and MKK are pretty close no? MKK is just Chinese version is it not? I thought that too! But apparently the MKI is and evolution of the original Su-30 which was a specialized Su-27UB. It has canards but is for the most part structurally very similar to the original Su-27. The MKK on the other hand lacks Canards and thrust vectoring but is structurally more similar to the Su-27m. More carbon fiber, titanium etc. it has some improvements over the original flanker at High sub sonic speeds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcedVenom Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, F-2 said: I thought that too! But apparently the MKI is and evolution of the original Su-30 which was a specialized Su-27UB. It has canards but is for the most part structurally very similar to the original Su-27. The MKK on the other hand lacks Canards and thrust vectoring but is structurally more similar to the Su-27m. More carbon fiber, titanium etc. it has some improvements over the original flanker at High sub sonic speeds. Well I hope they can find what they are looking for. Either that or they find what they need as they go along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylkhan Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Infos about su-30 Mk systems, can be interesting for DEKA devs. here : https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/267436-obuchajushhie-materialy-po-su-30mk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morri Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Link seems to be dead. If it was actual recentish documents , then I believe EDs policy would mean they can't be posted on the forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylkhan Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 2:57 AM, Morri said: Link seems to be dead. If it was actual recentish documents , then I believe EDs policy would mean they can't be posted on the forums Aaargh, too bad, fortunately i downloaded them, just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/11/2021 at 5:17 AM, sylkhan said: Aaargh, too bad, fortunately i downloaded them, just in case I did take a look though, which adds to the already abundant info regarding flight control systems and autopilot (SDU, SAU). Anyways I've already completed coding the exact longitudinal FBW according to the diagram, looking good. (That's a lot simpler control logic compared to the JF-17.) 10 4 EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I did take a look though, which adds to the already abundant info regarding flight control systems and autopilot (SDU, SAU). Anyways I've already completed coding the exact longitudinal FBW according to the diagram, looking good. (That's a lot simpler control logic compared to the JF-17.)Eh... Does that mean you guys are going to make it? 3 Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Jockey Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 hours ago, LJQCN101 said: I did take a look though, which adds to the already abundant info regarding flight control systems and autopilot (SDU, SAU). Anyways I've already completed coding the exact longitudinal FBW according to the diagram, looking good. (That's a lot simpler control logic compared to the JF-17.) Glad to know it. 1 Hangar FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | F/A-18C | MiG-21bis | Mirage 2000C ... ... JA 37 | Kfir | MiG-23 | Mirage IIIE Mi-8 MTV2 system i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJQCN101 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Oceandar said: Eh... Does that mean you guys are going to make it? Just some preliminary EFM and multi-crew preparation, didn't take much time. 12 1 EFM / FCS developer, Deka Ironwork Simulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J20Stronk Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) OH MY GOD IT'S (probably) HAPPENING, EVERYBODY STAY CALM! Edited April 12, 2021 by J20Stronk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just some preliminary EFM and multi-crew preparation, didn't take much time.Wow..nice. Thats good sign. Bring it on Deka. 1 Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max1mus Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 3:51 PM, F-2 said: I thought that too! But apparently the MKI is and evolution of the original Su-30 which was a specialized Su-27UB. It has canards but is for the most part structurally very similar to the original Su-27. The MKK on the other hand lacks Canards and thrust vectoring but is structurally more similar to the Su-27m. More carbon fiber, titanium etc. it has some improvements over the original flanker at High sub sonic speeds. MKI has a more capable radar. MKK has better missiles. 8 hours ago, LJQCN101 said: I did take a look though, which adds to the already abundant info regarding flight control systems and autopilot (SDU, SAU). Anyways I've already completed coding the exact longitudinal FBW according to the diagram, looking good. (That's a lot simpler control logic compared to the JF-17.) What info do you have, and what is still missing? If you give a detailed list, maybe the community can crowdsource some of it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich-Doe Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I would buy it either way. I wonder if medium fidelity is possible? - similar to full with a detailed clickable cockpit, but with more speculation on missing data and reliance on sme's etc... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenus Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 This is some serious C*cktease 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killkenny1 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 НЕТ ВОЙНЕ! Gib full-fi Su-27 or MiG-29 plz! AMD R7 3700X|32GB DDR4 RAM|Gigabyte RTX2070S Gaming OC|2TB NVMe SDD + 1TB SSD + 2TBB + 1TB HDD|Dell P3421W|Windows 10 Pro x64 TM Warthog|MFG Crosswind|Samsung Odyssey+|TrackIR 5 Modules: Mirage F1|Mi-24P|JF-17|F/A-18C|F-14A/B|F-5E|M-2000C|MiG-21bis|L-39|Yak-52|FC3|Supercarrier || Terrains: Persian Gulf|NTTR|Normandy|Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarp Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Jf17 is probably the Best Buy and best module I spent on DCS. It turned a plane I scoffed at to one I’m now a huge fan of. An FC3 SU30 I think would fall flat though. We want A Deka Full Fidelity module. Even if it were a tank that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZHeN Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 23 часа назад, Max1mus сказал: MKK has better missiles. huh ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, ZHeN said: huh ? Im assuming a reference to PL-12s, though it doesnt appear that the MKKs carried it until very recently Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylkhan Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) yes they have been retrofit with home made missiles since 2019, pl-12.... Edited April 13, 2021 by sylkhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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