GGTharos Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Of course we are talking about a flanker. There's a tail-boom in the picture you have quoted. Observe the fact that the lower vertical stab is obscuring one nacelle, and the boom is sticking out right along it. A Mig-29 would have a very long, straight space between the tails. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Is this the first official kill by Su-27?! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvETito Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 OT but I think they have some kills in Ethiopia-Eritrea war. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 There's also a 'half-kill' against a P-3C. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Is this the first official kill by Su-27?! No, it saw combat in Ethiopia VS Eritrea war. It scored at least 3 Mig-29's with no losses. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 There's also a 'half-kill' against a P-3C. Yeah, mid air collision incident! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 there was no "half kill". The P-3 made it safely to base, with a damaged prop and punctured skin. The Orion is very durable and a tough plane to bring down. Anyone remenber the US-china P-3 incident? That P-3 split a chinese J-8 fighter in half, without nose and 2 of its engines it still could fly to the closest airbase...it was chinese so the plane was deactivated by the crew before it was captured. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHunter Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Ethiopia VS Eritrea war: http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_189.shtml Открылась бездна звезд полна; Звездам числа нет, бездне дна. (М. В. Ломоносов) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 there was no "half kill". The P-3 made it safely to base, with a damaged prop and punctured skin. The Orion is very durable and a tough plane to bring down. Anyone remenber the US-china P-3 incident? That P-3 split a chinese J-8 fighter in half, without nose and 2 of its engines it still could fly to the closest airbase...it was chinese so the plane was deactivated by the crew before it was captured. Now wait a minute, aren't we talking norwegian Orion that collided with Su-27 (Red 36) piloted by V.Cymbal on September 13th, 1989?! Both planes were lost IIRC! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Thanks AlexHunter! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Neither was lost, both sufferered damage. Now wait a minute, aren't we talking norwegian Orion that collided with Su-27 (Red 36) piloted by V.Cymbal on September 13th, 1989?! Both planes were lost IIRC! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Most probably: http://www.elbitsystems.com/lobmainpage.asp?id=161Thanks Groove. It make sense, because Elbit worked with Tbilisi Aerospace Center on Su-25KM - Scorpion project. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus_G Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 raw footage from the UAV plus the known Georgian officer http://www.police.ge/_downloads/upilotoeng.wmv I'm sorry, but that's just usual low-res quality. Is there a high-res one on the web? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nscode Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Yeah, mid air collision incident! Or was it a taran ;) 1 Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 ^^^^^^ Could have been, however official statement was Mid Air during poor visibility (in the cloud). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaNk0 Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 OT ?:P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Perhaps OT but we're talking Su-27 kills and the plane in question seems to be Su-27. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Thanks Saint, I didn't realize it was a disputed incident! This is just one of possible pretendents. All we known about this is the Su-27 was shoot down and pilot was killed by unknowns after ejecting and landing near plane crash place. No shooter side (abkhazian, georgian) and no used weapon known sure. I don't think that was SA-2, more look like MANPAD or 23mm AAA. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Russian comment on this topic: http://www.kommersant.com/p-12426/Video_drone_forgery/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Святой Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 No, it saw combat in Ethiopia VS Eritrea war. It scored at least 3 Mig-29's with no losses. Very very doubtfull information. I don't believe that. No confirmed air-to-air victories during Ethiopia VS Eritrea war. No confirmed MiG-29 losses. More, according the information from the informed peoples there was no MiG-29 losses and only one MiG-29 was damaged by S-125 missile. I don't think that russian and ukrainian pilots wants to shoot to each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_o_d_2_2 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 What’s more, the air-to-air missile left the white trace that is common to the ground-to-air missiles, which aren’t used for such targets. -http://www.kommersant.com/p-12426/Video_drone_forgery/ Is that true? Most of the videos on youtube show AAMs leaving some kind of contrail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 No, it isn't really true in the sense that one contrail can look like another, and saying 'it looked like a SAM' means little. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-man Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Contrails are dictated by temperature, air pressure, humidity...They can look abit diffrent depending on these factors (not very diffrent, but to some degree.)... 64th Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 135.181.115.54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 IMO Video-drone-forgery explanation is BS! No way you can recognize a missile by the type of contrail! If that was possible this would probably be SA-2. MiG-29 has smokey engines so Russian missiles can be pretty same in that matter! But again I can't say for sure as I never saw a Russian IR misslie coming at me IRL! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverOne Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 well i'm still lookin for an explanation to that wing tip launch. :music_whistling: [-]SilverOne[-] [- Best Regards [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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