VR Hardware Benchmark late 2020 - Ryzen 2000/5000 - 1080ti vs 3080 vs 6800XT

[Habu_69]

19 hours ago, Lt_Jaeger said:

Darn, I'm so hyped for a AMD 6900XT but really not sure if I should get one. 

 

 

Most likely moot since newer graphics cards can't be found anywhere and probably will not be normally available for months.

[Bog9y]

plenty of 6900XTs available in France, the only problem is they are too expensive! Same with 3090s.   3080s & 6800s (XT and non) are never available though. 

[Lt_Jaeger]

Yeap, the top of the line products are available, but just very pricey compared to MSRP. 

AMD still much "cheaper" though. 

 

Still thinking.... 

Edited January 7, 2021 by Lt_Jaeger

[exil]

2 hours ago, Lt_Jaeger said:

Yeap, the top of the line products are available, but just very price compared to MSRP. 

AMD still much "cheaper" though. 

 

Still thinking.... 

Just read this thread carefully. If you need motion smoothing without any tweaking and compromises I wouldn't buy AMD right now until the drivers are fixed. 

If that happens and it is confirmed that it works properly I will be instantly switching from Nvidia to AMD. 

[Lt_Jaeger]

13 hours ago, exil said:

Just read this thread carefully. If you need motion smoothing without any tweaking and compromises I wouldn't buy AMD right now until the drivers are fixed. 

If that happens and it is confirmed that it works properly I will be instantly switching from Nvidia to AMD. 

That's why I will wait. I'm currently running a 2080TI which runs right on the brink of motion smoothing. I don't know if it is the GPU or CPU (3900x) which keeps it there, so I will wait and see if AMD Drivers will be taken care of, because I believe in the current state it will be a step back otherwise.

[tigger6]

I ordered a sapphire 6900 and it's saying "Expected tomorrow". I believe it when it arrives because it seems like I would be among the first people to receive a custom 6900 if that's true.

Edited January 8, 2021 by tigger6

[JayRoc]

can we please not make this to a chit-chat thread?

Edited January 8, 2021 by JayRoc

[Hartsblade]

Wow, this is a great thread! Thanks to everyone that is putting the time in to do the testing.

 

Has anyone been able to run these comparisons using the Index? I'm pretty sure @BIGNEWY runs an Index, has he had a chance to chime in?

 

Like everyone else I'm trying to make hardware choices for a new build. I'm pretty set on the 5900x for the CPU, but on the fence for the GPU. I'd love to go with the 6800 xt for that whole AMD synergy, but really tempted to wait for the 3080ti.

 

If the issues are really just software related, and are addressed the 6800 xt is back in contention. Contributors please keep the info coming. Not having access to the various hardware makes doing the test on my own impossible, you guys are doing us all a great service!

[VirusAM]

BN has the G2, I have the Index but it is currently RMAed and I am waiting for the replacement to be shipped

 

[modda]

Hi, this is a great thread!

I wanted to conduct some Intel/3090/G2 tests, but I cannot get the autopilot on the SU-25T to work properly (I think).

Is the autopilot supposed to handle both pitch and roll and fly the plane in a straight line? I did some tests but needed to correct a little roll. When I also enabled altitude hold (H) it was going a little yo-yo. Never flew this plane before, did I miss something 

 

(Also, mirrors on, right?)

 

[JayRoc]

Try unplugging your Joystick and rudder.

[modda]

5 hours ago, JayRoc said:

Try unplugging your Joystick and rudder.

 

Thanks, that did it! (I tried extending the axis dead zone without any luck).

I've attached two fpsVR files.

It seems like the 3090 could be comparable to the 6800xt for DCS in it's current state? If so it will be interesting to see how the 6900xt will perform!

 

(approx 84fps for the 76% res and 70fps for 100% res)

 

Modda

1610156561_76.json 1610156924_100.json

[exil]

8 hours ago, modda said:

 

Thanks, that did it! (I tried extending the axis dead zone without any luck).

I've attached two fpsVR files.

It seems like the 3090 could be comparable to the 6800xt for DCS in it's current state? If so it will be interesting to see how the 6900xt will perform!

 

(approx 84fps for the 76% res and 70fps for 100% res)

 

Modda

1610156561_76.json 2.87 kB · 2 downloads 1610156924_100.json 2.87 kB · 1 download

Well, the test is already there. Look at my post on page 5 of this threat. I compared the 3090 vs 6900xt.

 

Overall it is faster than the 3090 but not really faster than the 6800XT. 

 

Just as a reminder for the benchmark: SS was at 100%, PD 1.0 and ingame settings as given in the ingame VR preset to keep benchmarks comparable. 

[JayRoc]

We testet 3 different SS settings. 

And on higher SS settings the 6900XT should shine. We will update our charts when my brother has time to benchmark his 6900xt.

 

As I already stated with higher resolutions like with a Pimax 8k the 6900xt is way faster than the 6800xt.

[exil]

10 minutes ago, JayRoc said:

We testet 3 different SS settings. 

And on higher SS settings the 6900XT should shine. We will update our charts when my brother has time to benchmark his 6900xt.

 

As I already stated with higher resolutions like with a Pimax 8k the 6900xt is way faster than the 6800xt.

Cool! I really appreciate your work and am really curious about the results. 

Just to clarify: The tests I did (206%SS Reverb G1) was at a resolution of 3160x3100. This would match 100% SS on a G2. 

 

I will also do further testing when the new drivers are out and there are signs that the motion smoothing issues are fixed. I hope I can then get a hand on the 6800XT/6900XT again. 

[blkspade]

On 12/24/2020 at 6:19 AM, med0ra said:

No. The memory bandwith on AMD cards is lower. The chose it, because it is cheaper and more power efficent. To overcome the small bandwith, they added the infinity cache 128MB direct on the gpu chip. The prediction for what to chache does not work as good as they thought. So in 4k where you need bandwith, the amds cant hold against the raw performance of the nvidia cards. The chose the just working method over new tech. Nvidia focus is on RT. But there is no card which can handle RT at 4k. DLSS is nice, but i think it should be 3.0 to get very good results.

 

 

There was some collaboration between Nvidia and Micron in the development of GDDR6X, and reportedly Nvidia bought out all of it. There probably wasn't going to be much choice anyway other then super expensive HBM2E. Nvidia's design underperforms at 1080p, and slightly less so at 1440p compared to how good it ends up at 4k. That memory bandwidth also happens to be beneficial to mining, which Nvidia is directly shipping cards toward.

[br34ker]

Hello together,

 

I also followed this thread for a while now and I wanted to contribute my results of the benchmark - even if it is just as a reference because I use a Index instead of the G2

 

My hardware specs are

i9 9900KF@4.9 Ghz

64GB DDR4 RAM 3600

Geforce RTX 3090

Valve Index

 

DCS Openbeta with SteamVR beta - Settings in DCS from the "VR" profile - Steam SS 150% - I use the optimized shaders from speed-of-heats pack

 

As you can probably see - my CPU is also the restricting factor. For most missions and campaign it is usable. But with DCS Liberation for example I am struggling at 25-35 fps.

I wonder how much better the newer AMD proccessors perform with DCS Liberation.

 

 

[speed-of-heat]

3 hours ago, br34ker said:

Hello together,

 

I also followed this thread for a while now and I wanted to contribute my results of the benchmark - even if it is just as a reference because I use a Index instead of the G2

 

My hardware specs are

i9 9900KF@4.9 Ghz

64GB DDR4 RAM 3600

Geforce RTX 3090

Valve Index

 

DCS Openbeta with SteamVR beta - Settings in DCS from the "VR" profile - Steam SS 150% - I use the optimized shaders from speed-of-heats pack

 

As you can probably see - my CPU is also the restricting factor. For most missions and campaign it is usable. But with DCS Liberation for example I am struggling at 25-35 fps.

I wonder how much better the newer AMD proccessors perform with DCS Liberation.

 

 

m8 if you are only getting 25-35  fps with a 3090 something else is wrong, do you want to try my 3090 settings and see where that gets you

Edited January 9, 2021 by speed-of-heat

[otavio]

Does anyone else have the same issue running an RX 6800?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNMCWVB0Uu8&feature=youtu.be

Edited January 23, 2021 by otavio

[speed-of-heat]

30 minutes ago, otavio said:

Does anyone else have the same issue running an RX 6800?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNMCWVB0Uu8&feature=youtu.be

 

Make your own thread, include your settings and configuration, for windows, steamvr and in game and use fpsvr to capture the cpu and gpu frame times 

Edited January 23, 2021 by speed-of-heat

[exil]

3 hours ago, otavio said:

Does anyone else have the same issue running an RX 6800?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNMCWVB0Uu8&feature=youtu.be

 

I know what you mean and the problem has been discribed in this threat a few pages before. It seems to be a driver problem or a steamvr problem. We don't know yet. 

 

3 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

Make your own thread, include your settings and configuration, for windows, steamvr and in game and use fpsvr to capture the cpu and gpu frame times 

 

That is maybe a good idea since we shouldn't hijack this threat anymore and the problem is purely amd specific. As an addition, please post on which amd driver you are on. There was a new one released two days ago. 

[otavio]

POSSIBLE FIX - It has partially worked for me.

 

I have downgraded SteamVR to version 1.10.20 as well as WindowsMixedReality for SteamVR to the 20 March 2020 version. It solves the green/red graph spiking stuttering issues but performance is still worse when the game window has focus. At least DCS is now playable with forced motionvector. If you want to downgrade as well you are going to need to either use CheatEngine to re-enable steam's manifest patcher by patching some memory addresses or search github for fifty-six/zig.SteamManifestPatcher. After you do that you can manually download the depots for both SteamVR and Mixed Reality Driver and replace the files.

[VitS]

Index 100% SS (2016x2240)

 

fpsVR Report:
App: DCS HMD: Index (90.003 Hz, IPD 63.0)
GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT (27.20.14527.2002) CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor             
Delivered fps: 85.44  Duration: 3.2min. Headset was active: Unknown
GPU Frametimes:
Median: 5.8 ms
99th percentile: 10.9 ms
99.9th percentile: >30 ms
frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 99.4%
CPU frametime:
Median: 7 ms
99th percentile: 13.5 ms
99.9th percentile: >30 ms
frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 97.1%
Reprojection Ratio: 8.0% (for Index/Vive/VivePro headsets only)
Dropped frames: 0 or 0.0% (for Index/Vive/VivePro headsets only)
Max. SteamVR SS: 100%
Render resolution per eye: 2016x2240(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 2016x2240)

 

 

 

I also ran another test bumping SS to 270% to more or less match Pimax 8kx resolution from original test

 

Index 270% SS (3312x3680)

 

fpsVR Report:
App: DCS HMD: Index (90.003 Hz, IPD 63.0)
GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT (27.20.14527.2002) CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor             
Delivered fps: 71.73  Duration: 3.2min. Headset was active: Unknown
GPU Frametimes:
Median: 12.1 ms
99th percentile: 15.1 ms
99.9th percentile: 15.7 ms
frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 1.4%
CPU frametime:
Median: 11.6 ms
99th percentile: 18.5 ms
99.9th percentile: >30 ms
frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 46.3%
Reprojection Ratio: 23.6% (for Index/Vive/VivePro headsets only)
Dropped frames: 4 or 0.0% (for Index/Vive/VivePro headsets only)
Max. SteamVR SS: 270%
Render resolution per eye: 3312x3680(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 2016x2240)

Edited February 1, 2021 by VitS

[VitS]

After some overclocking:

 

Index 270% SS (3312x3680)

 

fpsVR Report:
App: DCS World OpenBeta HMD: Index (90.003 Hz, IPD 63.0)
GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT (27.20.14527.2002) CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor             
Delivered fps: 78.62  Duration: 3.9min. Headset was active: 12%
GPU Frametimes:
Median: 11.9 ms
99th percentile: 16.5 ms
99.9th percentile: >30 ms
frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 5.9%
CPU frametime:
Median: 12.1 ms
99th percentile: 19.5 ms
99.9th percentile: 24.8 ms
frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 41.3%
Reprojection Ratio: 95.9% (for Index/Vive/VivePro headsets only)
Dropped frames: 5 or 0.0% (for Index/Vive/VivePro headsets only)
Max. SteamVR SS: 270%
Render resolution per eye: 3312x3680(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 2016x2240)

[Hartsblade]

@VitS can you please post you in game settings, or are you running the VR pre-set?