reported F-14 Supercarrier compatibility

[Reflected]

I recorded a few Case I landings.

This video shows many compatibility issues between the Supercarrier and the F-14A:

- I'm getting constant "little slow" calls when on speed.

- The IFLOLS overlay doesn't match the carrier's IFLOLS. The overlay shows a higher ball, and leads to a 1 or 2 wire.

- The LSO grading seems off too, I'm getting a lot of EGIW, EGTL, and TMRDAR, probably because it's still calibrated for the Hornet?

 

 

[Manhorne]

I am having the same issues....I believe it is seeing the F14 as the Hornet. Every time I call "Tomcat Ball" I am getting the reply back Hornet Ball"

[Jackjack171]

Same here.

[Skysurfer]

The IFLOLS only works with the Hornet, same goes for the groove speeds and geometry calls/grades by the LSO.

[snaxx]

Same issue here. Getting slow calls from the LSO when I'm actually on speed in the F14-B. Makes for a tough Case III landing with all the noise.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

On 12/14/2020 at 11:50 AM, Reflected said:

I'm getting constant "little slow" calls when on speed.

I have that as well, both with the F-14A and F-14B: I always have "SLOX" as my landing grade.

[Cocker]

Bumping this thread, I'm tired of getting slow calls and grades when I'm on speed with the F-14 as well as as incorrect IFLOS.

 

I have the feeling the SC module doesn't get the love it deserves from the devs at the moment...

[johodg]

And as I stated in another thread, I can´t even take off...

[Cocker]

Hello folks,

 

So I hoped the new update would fix some of the F-14 LSO bugs, but I can confirm this is not the case:

 

- F-14A: Once hooked onto the catapult shuttle, deck crew gives signal to raise the launch bar, same as with the F-18. This signal should not be given.

- LSO still not correctly calibrated and constantly advise you as being slow when on AOA, for both A and B.

- IFLOS not calibrated for the F-14A and B, still showing a ball that's too low and will grant you a 1 or 2 wire even if perfectly centered and not sinking.

[TOMCATZ]

Yupp -same here. 

Plus : in Multiplay Jester call "Bolter" everytime, even when you catch the wire. 

Well - It could be possible, that some adjustments must be done by the HeatBlur team.  Secondo me, all that things are not a showstopper but it would be nice if these are fixed at some day. Same as the crew animation while take off. That deck crew member who is using a rod into the launch system, is diving into the Tomcat shape when he stands up.

 

Cheers and cari saluti,

 

Tom 

[Cocker]

Kinda want to bump this and hope to have an answer from ED.

[grant977]

I’ll bump it with you. LSO will wave off if your flying on a slope for a 4 wire. You do need a high ball to be on in the cat.

[Slant]

On 4/15/2021 at 11:54 AM, Cocker said:

Hello folks,

 

So I hoped the new update would fix some of the F-14 LSO bugs, but I can confirm this is not the case:

 

- F-14A: Once hooked onto the catapult shuttle, deck crew gives signal to raise the launch bar, same as with the F-18. This signal should not be given.

- LSO still not correctly calibrated and constantly advise you as being slow when on AOA, for both A and B.

- IFLOS not calibrated for the F-14A and B, still showing a ball that's too low and will grant you a 1 or 2 wire even if perfectly centered and not sinking.

 

Just to hijack this and get my pet peeve off my chest:

 

It's not technically calibrated wrong. It's just calibrated for the wrong aircraft (F/A-18C). It's outrageous that we still don't have the most basic tools that an LSO needs to actually do his job properly and you are rightly pointing this out. ED needs to get crackin' on this, they were paid money upfront and so far they have barely delivered the minimum. In the last patch, they have even broken that. It's last year's carrier experience all over again.

Edited April 26, 2021 by Slant

[Golo]

6 minutes ago, Slant said:

ED needs to get crackin' on this, they were paid money upfront and so far they have barely delivered the minimum. In the last patch, they have even broken that. It's last year's carrier experience all over again.

Dont worry we will get amazing ready room instead, so you will be able to complain about what matters most behind the boat (ball and correct LSO calls) in there.

[spacefish]

Bump.

It's a relief to hear it's not my flying, as I was starting to get a bit curious why I was always getting "you're slow" calls from the LSO, and "bolter" calls from Jester. I have a hunch the bolter calls has to do with Heatblur's tailhook logic clashing with Supercarrier's logic.

 

These issues don't affect me on the Vanilla carrier. 

 

 

[Cocker]

@BIGNEWY have those been reported to the team?

Sorry to push, folks, but seing there is reply from community manager to some issues with the trousers camouflage of some guys on the deck, but not about important functionality is somewhat off-putting.

[Stearmandriver]

I keep wanting to get the Tomcat, and then I keep reading about these bugs with the supercarrier and I decide I'll wait till they're fixed.  I mean, based on these complaints the free A-4E now works more smoothly with the SC than the Tomcat, so I'll fly that for my 70s carrier aircraft fix for now...

[near_blind]

2 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

I keep wanting to get the Tomcat, and then I keep reading about these bugs with the supercarrier and I decide I'll wait till they're fixed.  I mean, based on these complaints the free A-4E now works more smoothly with the SC than the Tomcat, so I'll fly that for my 70s carrier aircraft fix for now...

 

Well by that logic, every issue that exists for the F-14 also exists for the A-4. It's an issue of ED failing to account for other aircraft rather than an issue with the aircraft themselves. 

[Stearmandriver]

43 minutes ago, near_blind said:

 

Well by that logic, every issue that exists for the F-14 also exists for the A-4. It's an issue of ED failing to account for other aircraft rather than an issue with the aircraft themselves. 

I agree with that and believe me I'd love to see it fixed for all aircraft.  But I think there must be less of a size / geometry difference for the Skyhawk, because when I can (very occasionally) managed a stable pass with a centered ball, it results in a 3 wire and a decent grade. 

[Nealius]

At this point I've stopped flying the ball and fly off of a deck image to snag my wires, which is very bad practice in real life and shouldn't even net you a 3 wire anyway. This needs to be prioritized over all else, and is why I've largely stopped flying the Hornet and Tomcat since shortly after SC release. 

[Cocker]

You can fly the ball, just keep it in the upper half of the glide scope. Still a good practice to keep a steady ball.

But yeah, apparently ED is only willing to provide assistance for the F-18 and don't give a damn about anything from other 3rd parties devs...

[Cocker]

Something? Anyone?

[Jayhawk1971]

Going to bump this with the additional observation that when calling the ball in the F-14A, the pilot voice says "Hornet, ball" instead of "Tomcat, ball". No biggie, but immersion breaking nonetheless.

[sLYFa]

The director also signals "launch bar up" which he shouldn't (and doesnt for the B) 

[Wavehopper]

Anything from ED at all?  A rough time scale or acknowledgement?