Sokol1_br Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunk Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Well hello there, new hardware that I’ll be purchasing for the Apache. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordants Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Looking forward to these landing! SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz, 3792 Mhz, 64Gb RAM, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090, CONTROLS: VPC Rotor TCS Base, VPC Hawk-60 Collective Grip, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base, VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime [R], Thrustmaster Warthog – Throttle, Thrustmaster TPR - Pendular Rudder Pedals, Honeycomb Alpha Flight Control (For Anubis C-130 Hercules), Meta Quest Pro. SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ce_Zeta Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Now, we are talking! [sIGPIC]http://i.imgur.com/YexElgV.jpg[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HILOK Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 yeah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomOnSteam Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) These look very, very, nice. The UH-60 collective might have enough hat-switches to cover the up-coming Apache too. Although if VirPil make an AH-64 collective, I'm sold Edited December 23, 2020 by TomOnSteam 1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockpit Spectator Mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VpR81 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Hoping for an Apache replica collective grip too, but the UH-60 grip will be nice as well. Hopefully these get released close to the Kiowas release. These collectives are just what i was waiting for, now i can't wait to get back into helicopters after 20 years since Jane's Longbow. Great news for rotor heads indeed! Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus / 4x TM Cougar MFD / TM TPR / HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BranchPrediction Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I like the ka50 collective more, but does its handle rotate? Like the huey's collective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre_Ewan Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 5 hours ago, BranchPrediction said: I like the ka50 collective more, but does its handle rotate? Like the huey's collective. It's two different bases with interchangeable sticks. One base has a rotating throttle grip, the other doesn't. You can use either stick with it. So the simple answer is yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirimeister Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 I'm looking forward to these controles as well. I'm just trying to understand how the collective attaches to a chair. But they look great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 buff I need to win the lottery 1 i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | DIY Collective | Virpil desk mount | VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 3x TM MFDs | 2x bass shakers pedal plate| SIMple SIMpit chair | WinWing TakeOff panel | PointCTRL v2 | Andre JetSeat | Winwing Hornet UFC | Winwing Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalnwood Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 It's this kind of thing that makes me thing my trusty warthogs days are numbered for helos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Bushman Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 As with anything, depends on price. Anymore than $300 they might as well have not bothered. Above that we already have options. i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/27/2020 at 9:17 AM, Bob_Bushman said: Above that we already have options. Your recommendations? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Bushman Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) They are usually small volume stuff, but there is a fair few who makes a basic collective for about $5-$600. Replica stuff starts around a grand. You can also get stuff off ebay and macgyver it with a Leo Bodnar board or an arduino. Fact is, I do not accept this is anything more difficult to make than any other throttle\gimbal solution. If they can sell the CM3 for €360 so can this. If you simplify. It's a stick with a hall sensor at the end, and a brake. Edited December 28, 2020 by Bob_Bushman 2 i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Bob_Bushman said: ...small volume stuff, but a fair few who makes a basic collective for about $5-$600. Replica stuff starts around a grand. You didn't name, names... can you suggest one of the better small volume alternatives and one of the better replica standard options, please. Not trolling, but interested in the alternatives to this Virpil solution. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Bushman Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) Google is a thing you know. As for the more replica stuff. https://komodosimulations.co.uk/collections/collective And another option for $350 https://pro-flight-trainer-com.myshopify.com/collections/spare-parts/products/adjustable-collective-arm-with-throttle-box-and-zone-switch Edited December 29, 2020 by Bob_Bushman 1 i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalnwood Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Bob_Bushman said: Google is a thing you know. As for the more replica stuff. https://komodosimulations.co.uk/collections/collective And another option for $350 https://pro-flight-trainer-com.myshopify.com/collections/spare-parts/products/adjustable-collective-arm-with-throttle-box-and-zone-switch Starting at around $600usd for 3d printed parts or $350 for two buttons and a couple switches. You buy those, I like the look of the VIRPIL. It's a funny argument to be having when we don't know the price.. If the price of the collective bas is the same as the more expensive mogoose stick base and the grip is the same as one of their other grips then its about the same price as the komodo. The quality of the VIRPIL grips makes it kind of a no brainer. Hey, I am just guessing like you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxer Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Bob_Bushman said: Google is a thing you know. What a charmer. As for the more replica stuff. https://komodosimulations.co.uk/collections/collective And another option for $350 https://pro-flight-trainer-com.myshopify.com/collections/spare-parts/products/adjustable-collective-arm-with-throttle-box-and-zone-switch There. That wasn't so difficult was it? Plenty of people in the community - including me - are more than happy to help others in areas where they know more about a particular subject. I have no prior experience of helicopters, but I though I would ask seeing as you appeared to know what you were talking about. Yet when I see you dismiss Virpil's new products by saying ... On 12/27/2020 at 9:17 AM, Bob_Bushman said: Anymore than $300 they might as well have not bothered. ... and then I look at your suggestions from Pro Flight Trainer and Komodo which look like cheaper materials and manufacturing than Virpil and more expensive than your "<$300 or don't bother" comment no wonder why you made the "google is your friend" comment. You really didn't have any value added after all. 10 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zcaa0g Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) My gut feeling is Virpil will be at a price point that is going to rip Komodo a new one along with better quality and more features. The big question will be any early growing pains from a new design for Virpil I understand it's a niche market, but Komodo has always been on crack for selling a base at $600 and a separate controller at $600 when the parts quality is not that great to truly be in line with those prices. When you are exceeding a grand, it's no longer time to be using 3D printed hats. I would rather spend an extra $50 per hat to get a quality one than a 3D printed one. At its heart, 3D printing is an awesome technology, but I feel it is being abused too much over quality due to its convenience. Or I should say, some manufacturers are using low or mid-range 3D printers instead of shelling out for the ones that can do it right (if they even exist right now). Edited December 29, 2020 by zcaa0g 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Cypher Administrators 870 594 posts Posted Thursday at 10:13 AM Hello VIRPILs! Today we would like to talk more about our upcoming VPC Rotor TCS and Rotor TCS Plus Collective Bases! As previously announced, there will be two variants of our collective base. Both bases will feature high quality, all metal construction and a clutch mechanism to hold the lever position when released. The clutch can be adjusted via the screw port holes located at the top and bottom side of the bases and can be achieved without dismantling the base, allowing on-the-fly tuning. Further adjustment will be provided via interchangeable cam plates to adjust the range of motion provided by the base. Axis response will be provided via our VPC Digital Contactless Sensors, ensuring accurate and precise positioning across the entire axis range. Where the bases differ is on the VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base - the Plus variant includes an additional twist throttle axis on the stem, as well as an additional push button input and switch perfect for the most demanding helicopter pilots. These inputs will be used to control the operation of the twist grip - the rotation range can be restricted with the toggle. The grip will also include tactile detents within the range. Mounting the VPC Rotor TCS Bases poses an interesting challenge due to the unique nature of these controls. We are still in the process of reviewing solutions to offer versatile and accessible mounting options for all VIRPILs. Current production prototypes are using a metal bracket which can be attached to existing simpits or hard mounted to a desk chair. Connectivity is provided via our detachable USB and AUX outputs as found on our MongoosT-50 range of devices and will support device daisy-chaining. Stay tuned for more news on our helicopter controls lineup! Regards, VIRPIL Controls Team 11 Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Sign me up for one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98abaile Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 How much? This is the make or break question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Hmmmm.....DCS is going to make this hard to pass up,With upcoming Helo Modules Mi-24,Kiowa.Apache and Black Shark #3 ....I think the majority of my DCS 2021 time will be "Pulling for Power" Edited January 3, 2021 by Phantom88 Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volator Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I'm sold. 2 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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