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KiloBravo

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Hi. Since the last couple of updates I've been getting very long hangs with the loading sequence, and regular crashes since the latest open beta update.

 

My problems with long (in excess of 30 mins) load times seemed to start around the time I migrated my DCS installation to a new SSD. The load process hangs around the "Terrain Init : 1" part. My SSD is running at 100% but nothing is being read

 

Since the latest update things have gotten worse.

Load times still regularly hang although I no longer wait that long. I'll close down DCS in the task manager and try again, normally successfully. I'm now getting frequent crashes. Characterised by a pop up saying DCS has crashed. I can normal still fly for a bit (30s or so) until a "report problem" dialogue pops up and then DCS finally crashes to the desktop.

 

Steps that I've taken to try to fix the problem.

I'm not running any mods and have removed excess files.

I've done a full verify and repair.

Windows 10 is up to date.

My 2060 rtx drivers are the latest WHQL from Nvidia.

I've increased the page file size in line with Mustangs post

 

If someone is able to offer any other suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it. I've attached one of the latest logs. The last one is over 5MB so I'm not sure how to upload it.

 

Thanks for your assistance.

KB

dcs.log-20210101-020321.zip

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Hi KiloBravo. Here's your crashlog:

 

2021-01-01 02:03:21.176 INFO    EDCORE: try to write dump information
2021-01-01 02:03:21.177 INFO    EDCORE: # -------------- 20210101-020321 --------------
2021-01-01 02:03:21.177 INFO    EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.59625 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19042)
2021-01-01 02:03:21.178 INFO    EDCORE: E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\edCore.dll
2021-01-01 02:03:21.179 INFO    EDCORE: # C0000006 IN_PAGE_ERROR at 4A8FFECA 00:00000000
2021-01-01 02:03:21.182 INFO    EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\DCS World OpenBeta;E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'kenbr'
2021-01-01 02:03:21.183 INFO    EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19042 () 0x300-0x1
2021-01-01 02:03:21.715 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000EFECA (edCore): mmfMemoryBlockPreload + 0x4A
2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000234407 (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::Square::preload + 0x187
2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000666DD (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x562AD
2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000DEDD0 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x2CC0
2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000DB778 (edCore): ed::thread::_get_current_thread_id + 0x58
2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000214C2 (ucrtbase): configthreadlocale + 0x92
2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2021-01-01 02:03:21.717 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000004D0D1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2021-01-01 02:03:35.331 INFO    EDCORE: Minidump created.

 

There's nothing much to learn about it, although the crashing function is called "mmfMemmoryBlockPreload".

 

Please run the following command in the "cmd" Windows utility, then paste the result here:

 

wmic pagefile list /format:list

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Thanks for your reply @Flappie

 

Here's the output from that command. Doesn't mean much to me I'm afraid.

 

AllocatedBaseSize=4864
CurrentUsage=41
Description=C:\pagefile.sys
InstallDate=20200513115041.546910+720
Name=C:\pagefile.sys
PeakUsage=330
Status=
TempPageFile=FALSE


AllocatedBaseSize=16384
CurrentUsage=18
Description=E:\pagefile.sys
InstallDate=20201229145215.340949+780
Name=E:\pagefile.sys
PeakUsage=310
Status=
TempPageFile=FALSE

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Thanks. It means your system has two pagefiles: one on your C:\ drive (4 GB) and the other on your E:\ drive (16 GB). Usually, you get only one pagefile, but I doubt this is the problem here (we'll get back to this later on if needed).

 

I wanted to make sure you had no pagefile stored on your HDD drive (D:\). So far, so good.

 

Now, we need to understand what's happening with your drives when the game is taking so long to load:

  1. Launch Resource Monitor (Windows utility) and maximize it
  2. Click on the "Disk" tab
  3. Sort by "Total (bytes/s)", descending order
  4. Launch DCS and wait for the long loading to start (as soon as you start a mission, right?)
  5. Now get back to the Resource Monitor (Alt+Tab)
  6. Check the box close to "DCS.exe" in the process list: the bottom list will only show files being accessed by DCS
  7. Take screenshots and attach them here

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Thank you very much @Flappie for taking the time to help me with this. I really appreciate it.

 

I tried to load a training mission for the F18 based in Cacasus. Here are some screen shots. You'll see on the bottom right hand corner that the load started about 2:58, it finally crashed at about 3:13. The crash log is nearly 9MB.

 

I took 4 screen shots to show various time points. Hopefully these help you understand what's happening with my system.

 

Cheers

KB

DCS Load1.jpg

DCS Load2.jpg

DCS Load3.jpg

DCS Load4.jpg

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Wow. Your E:\ drive is performing very badly. And I'm certain of this because we both have DCS installed on the exact same model (Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB).

 

Look at the "Response time column": you mostly get between 0.5 and 0.9 seconds when you're supposed to have tiny timings like "0 ms", "1 ms", and some rare times "50 ms" at worst. To give you an idea, here are the worst timings I get when I launch DCS after a reboot (top line is worst response time, 30 ms):

 

Flappie_resmon.png

 

You need to do several things:

  1. If you have any precious files in your E:\ drive, now is the time to make a backup.
  2. In your pagefile settings, remove the pagefile stored on your E:\ drive (it will only slow your PC down if you keep it).
  3. Move your \DCS World OpenBeta\ folder to your C:\ drive thanks to a copy / paste (don't use "cut", because it can sometimes screw file permissions). Beforehand, check you have enough room on your C:\ drive of course.
  4. Now, we must make sure your E:\ drive was the one and only culprit: launch your newly moved DCS (executable is here: \DCS World OpenBeta\bin\dcs.exe) and see if you can play. If you're still having the same issue, please attach fresh Resource Monitor screenshots.

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Well you were absolutely spot on Flappie.

 

I've traced the problem to a faulty SATA cable. Now getting R/W speeds where they should be. DCS loading quickly and so far no crashes.

 

I'm sorry to have wasted your time with my problem, but I'm very grateful to you for helping me resolve the issue.

 

All the best

KB

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hi spottie, your way to investigate is fabulous and easy !

I tried to solve an edmodelviewer2 that CTD when loading an assemby EDM, or watever, and the soft CTD.

Using your technique, i monitored the activity, and while edmodelvwr2 was still running on welcome page, he vanished from the monitor !

Any help ?

VERY SORRY FOR THE OFF TOPIC

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9 hours ago, KiloBravo said:

Well you were absolutely spot on Flappie.

 

I've traced the problem to a faulty SATA cable. Now getting R/W speeds where they should be. DCS loading quickly and so far no crashes.

 

I'm sorry to have wasted your time with my problem, but I'm very grateful to you for helping me resolve the issue.

 

All the best

KB

 

Luckily you didn't have to change the whole disk!

You have not wasted my time at all. Thanks for your detailed feedback. 👍

 

8 hours ago, pieroboy99 said:

hi spottie, your way to investigate is fabulous and easy !

I tried to solve an edmodelviewer2 that CTD when loading an assemby EDM, or watever, and the soft CTD.

Using your technique, i monitored the activity, and while edmodelvwr2 was still running on welcome page, he vanished from the monitor !

Any help ?

VERY SORRY FOR THE OFF TOPIC

 

Programs "vanish" from the monitor when they're not using resources after a short time.
i see you have fixed your issue in the meantime.


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