KiloBravo Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Hi. Since the last couple of updates I've been getting very long hangs with the loading sequence, and regular crashes since the latest open beta update. My problems with long (in excess of 30 mins) load times seemed to start around the time I migrated my DCS installation to a new SSD. The load process hangs around the "Terrain Init : 1" part. My SSD is running at 100% but nothing is being read Since the latest update things have gotten worse. Load times still regularly hang although I no longer wait that long. I'll close down DCS in the task manager and try again, normally successfully. I'm now getting frequent crashes. Characterised by a pop up saying DCS has crashed. I can normal still fly for a bit (30s or so) until a "report problem" dialogue pops up and then DCS finally crashes to the desktop. Steps that I've taken to try to fix the problem. I'm not running any mods and have removed excess files. I've done a full verify and repair. Windows 10 is up to date. My 2060 rtx drivers are the latest WHQL from Nvidia. I've increased the page file size in line with Mustangs post If someone is able to offer any other suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it. I've attached one of the latest logs. The last one is over 5MB so I'm not sure how to upload it. Thanks for your assistance. KB dcs.log-20210101-020321.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Hi KiloBravo. Here's your crashlog: 2021-01-01 02:03:21.176 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2021-01-01 02:03:21.177 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20210101-020321 -------------- 2021-01-01 02:03:21.177 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.59625 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19042) 2021-01-01 02:03:21.178 INFO EDCORE: E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\edCore.dll 2021-01-01 02:03:21.179 INFO EDCORE: # C0000006 IN_PAGE_ERROR at 4A8FFECA 00:00000000 2021-01-01 02:03:21.182 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\DCS World OpenBeta;E:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'kenbr' 2021-01-01 02:03:21.183 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19042 () 0x300-0x1 2021-01-01 02:03:21.715 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000EFECA (edCore): mmfMemoryBlockPreload + 0x4A 2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000234407 (edterrain4): landscape5::Surface5File::Square::preload + 0x187 2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000666DD (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x562AD 2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000DEDD0 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x2CC0 2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000DB778 (edCore): ed::thread::_get_current_thread_id + 0x58 2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000000214C2 (ucrtbase): configthreadlocale + 0x92 2021-01-01 02:03:21.716 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2021-01-01 02:03:21.717 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000004D0D1 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 2021-01-01 02:03:35.331 INFO EDCORE: Minidump created. There's nothing much to learn about it, although the crashing function is called "mmfMemmoryBlockPreload". Please run the following command in the "cmd" Windows utility, then paste the result here: wmic pagefile list /format:list Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloBravo Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 Thanks for your reply @Flappie Here's the output from that command. Doesn't mean much to me I'm afraid. AllocatedBaseSize=4864 CurrentUsage=41 Description=C:\pagefile.sys InstallDate=20200513115041.546910+720 Name=C:\pagefile.sys PeakUsage=330 Status= TempPageFile=FALSE AllocatedBaseSize=16384 CurrentUsage=18 Description=E:\pagefile.sys InstallDate=20201229145215.340949+780 Name=E:\pagefile.sys PeakUsage=310 Status= TempPageFile=FALSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Thanks. It means your system has two pagefiles: one on your C:\ drive (4 GB) and the other on your E:\ drive (16 GB). Usually, you get only one pagefile, but I doubt this is the problem here (we'll get back to this later on if needed). I wanted to make sure you had no pagefile stored on your HDD drive (D:\). So far, so good. Now, we need to understand what's happening with your drives when the game is taking so long to load: Launch Resource Monitor (Windows utility) and maximize it Click on the "Disk" tab Sort by "Total (bytes/s)", descending order Launch DCS and wait for the long loading to start (as soon as you start a mission, right?) Now get back to the Resource Monitor (Alt+Tab) Check the box close to "DCS.exe" in the process list: the bottom list will only show files being accessed by DCS Take screenshots and attach them here Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloBravo Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 Thank you very much @Flappie for taking the time to help me with this. I really appreciate it. I tried to load a training mission for the F18 based in Cacasus. Here are some screen shots. You'll see on the bottom right hand corner that the load started about 2:58, it finally crashed at about 3:13. The crash log is nearly 9MB. I took 4 screen shots to show various time points. Hopefully these help you understand what's happening with my system. Cheers KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) Wow. Your E:\ drive is performing very badly. And I'm certain of this because we both have DCS installed on the exact same model (Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB). Look at the "Response time column": you mostly get between 0.5 and 0.9 seconds when you're supposed to have tiny timings like "0 ms", "1 ms", and some rare times "50 ms" at worst. To give you an idea, here are the worst timings I get when I launch DCS after a reboot (top line is worst response time, 30 ms): You need to do several things: If you have any precious files in your E:\ drive, now is the time to make a backup. In your pagefile settings, remove the pagefile stored on your E:\ drive (it will only slow your PC down if you keep it). Move your \DCS World OpenBeta\ folder to your C:\ drive thanks to a copy / paste (don't use "cut", because it can sometimes screw file permissions). Beforehand, check you have enough room on your C:\ drive of course. Now, we must make sure your E:\ drive was the one and only culprit: launch your newly moved DCS (executable is here: \DCS World OpenBeta\bin\dcs.exe) and see if you can play. If you're still having the same issue, please attach fresh Resource Monitor screenshots. Edited January 2, 2021 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloBravo Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 Well you were absolutely spot on Flappie. I've traced the problem to a faulty SATA cable. Now getting R/W speeds where they should be. DCS loading quickly and so far no crashes. I'm sorry to have wasted your time with my problem, but I'm very grateful to you for helping me resolve the issue. All the best KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieroboy99 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 hi spottie, your way to investigate is fabulous and easy ! I tried to solve an edmodelviewer2 that CTD when loading an assemby EDM, or watever, and the soft CTD. Using your technique, i monitored the activity, and while edmodelvwr2 was still running on welcome page, he vanished from the monitor ! Any help ? VERY SORRY FOR THE OFF TOPIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, KiloBravo said: Well you were absolutely spot on Flappie. I've traced the problem to a faulty SATA cable. Now getting R/W speeds where they should be. DCS loading quickly and so far no crashes. I'm sorry to have wasted your time with my problem, but I'm very grateful to you for helping me resolve the issue. All the best KB Luckily you didn't have to change the whole disk! You have not wasted my time at all. Thanks for your detailed feedback. 8 hours ago, pieroboy99 said: hi spottie, your way to investigate is fabulous and easy ! I tried to solve an edmodelviewer2 that CTD when loading an assemby EDM, or watever, and the soft CTD. Using your technique, i monitored the activity, and while edmodelvwr2 was still running on welcome page, he vanished from the monitor ! Any help ? VERY SORRY FOR THE OFF TOPIC Programs "vanish" from the monitor when they're not using resources after a short time. i see you have fixed your issue in the meantime. Edited January 3, 2021 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieroboy99 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Merci beaucoup Mister ! This ressources monitor will now save my days when some nasty apps tend to "vanish" ! or to point some loosy hardware..... Cheers Edited January 3, 2021 by pieroboy99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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