clear taxi ways for ai E2D Collides with Objects on the deck

[-Quetzalcoatl-]

I've seen this most in MP mission when myself and another player spawn on the deck at the same time as an AI E2D is supposed to launch and provide AWACs. I've recreated it here using a static deck object (F14) as the second player. If I can snag a clean MP track I will.

 

 

Silly_E2D.trk

[BIGNEWY]

Hi

 

 it is important to keep the taxi ways clear when using AI, there is a guide in the manual showing where those routes are located. 

 

hope that helps

 

thanks

[-Quetzalcoatl-]

But we can't control where player planes get loaded on the super carrier. In a MP mission, the F14 spot gets populated by a player entity, and the E2D gets so close you can't maneuver around it.

 

Edit: Also we cannot dictate that the E2D spawn and use the rear cats (that I know of)

Edited February 3, 2021 by -Quetzalcoatl-

[Tippis]

6 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

 it is important to keep the taxi ways clear when using AI, there is a guide in the manual showing where those routes are located. 

 

hope that helps

You removed the ability to control any of that so it doesn't really help, no. You can't keep the taxi ways clear because the AI that gets blocked is also who decides that something should block them.

[BIGNEWY]

I will run it by the team. 

 

thanks 

[Northstar98]

2 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

I will run it by the team. 

 

thanks 

 

Awesome!

 

We really need a system similar to how it works with airbases, where we can select what ramp position we want to start; right now it only gives us which catapult to start on (for 'start on the runway'), but as far as starting from a parking spot goes, it's totally automatic and there's no player control.

 

It might also help if the spots were numbered in the ME, instead of just the manual - again like airbases.

[BIGNEWY]

Unfortunately the only way it will work is with the current system, the super carrier will assign spawn locations for ramp at the six pack or cheek spots if free and cats for runway start. 

 

The AI have to be allowed a clear route on the deck if they are being used, the best way currently is for the mission creator to manage the routes as best they can with careful planning of AI activation. 

[Tippis]

An alternative would be if it was possible to do the exact opposite: if rather than assigning spawn points in the ME, you could disable certain points.

 

For all intents and purposes, the spawn logic would continue as normal except it came preset with the assumption that certain slots were already in use and could not be assigned to new spawns, but the taxi logic would just go about its business because there were no actual models blocking anything.

[Andartu]

3 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Unfortunately the only way it will work is with the current system, the super carrier will assign spawn locations for ramp at the six pack or cheek spots if free and cats for runway start. 

 

The AI have to be allowed a clear route on the deck if they are being used, the best way currently is for the mission creator to manage the routes as best they can with careful planning of AI activation. 

 

But why is that? Can you please explain why it is that limited? Why we cannot choose a ramp position on the boat like on the airfield. This was discussed here so many times but got never answered.

The only answer is always that it is just not possible. But sorry that is a real bummer for the carrier and obviously many people struggle with it. I don´t want a book that goes into the depth of programming but a bit of a further explanation why this apparently never was a thing the development got in mind.

 

So there are numbered positions (like at an airfield) in the manual and so on the carrier, why we cannot choose them in the ME?

[BIGNEWY]

Regarding the track and the video, the F-14B on the six pack is a static, if you place a static in any of the routes only bad things will happen. 

 

 

 

thanks

[dorianR666]

49 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Regarding the track and the video, the F-14B on the six pack is a static, if you place a static in any of the routes only bad things will happen. 

 

 

 

thanks

OP said it happens with clients too, he just used static to show the issue.

[-Quetzalcoatl-]

I'll get another TRK and video with no statics, same issue. I can also use statics to fill the front spawn points and force the E2D to the stern, which then has them use the rear cats successfully.