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Hello 🙂

A very nice thing to have in mission is from far : something we don't know, something we would never expect to be hapenning, something very suprising, etc...

 

How great are missions where lots of differents things happening all along your flight, which feel alive ! But when you flight this mission again, things feel familiar... and when you fly again, you already now what's going to happen, again and again... Because everything is already written. This fantastic mission you loved become tastless, because everything have to be written.

 

The only way to make things each time differents is adding some kind of  randomness to your mission. Then, each time you fly your beloved mission, something have changed. How great is the feeling of being suprise into your own mission ! Moreover, isn't " surprise effect " the most realistic factor ?

So shouldn't it be a priority in a combat simulator game ? to have something you would never think about ? Multiplayer is very great for that, because you can't predict player actions.

 

But how to do it in  PVE mission ? One of the way is triggers :

 

First step is:

 

    once, random 50, group activate

Great. But how to do it during the mission ?  we need more surprise!

 

    once random 50, flag 1 is true

          then

    once, flag 1 is ture and time more 120 sec, group activate.

Yes ok nice, but i mean with more " randomness"  you see ?? like a time interval !

 

But... there is no time interval 😮 To create a time interval you can  do that : 

 

But omg... its going to take 30min to make only one unit wth ??

 

 

Triggers are ok for few groups. But when you have more than 30 groups on each coalition, 60 differents kind of groups you need to setup one by one. Its going to be such a crazy nightmare that just thinking about it  hurts my brain.

 

Second step is :  if DCS can't, third party and mod could --> MOOSE

 

Yes, Moose, i love moose, it expend so much DCS capacities,  it should be integrated to DCS like  the "DCS coalition change in ME mod "

 

But it took me so many hours to learn how to use  the basics of moose and .lua... and im still a super noob at it.

 

Even with Moose, creating a random spawn is " something not so obvious"...

 

 

Then I simply realize : why is something so simple such as " Random spawn " not already exist in the game, or so in a simpler way ????????????

So wouldn't it be ultra supa dupa FANNNNNTASTIC to have something like that in the ME ????
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Located hereis the ME might a bit too much to ask 😄

 

So at least, we could have this in the conditions !!!!
 

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"Condition" already does the chance spawn, although it doesn't have the between time feature, which would be a nice addition I agree.


Although at the same time I think the time between would also make a nice trigger, along with "time since flag between". A random checkbox is good for simple missions, but for very large missions you also need to balance random spawns or you might end up with too many (or too few) enemies to fight.

 

These days I most often use mission start flags to sort out randomness in my missions and keep things balanced:

Mission Start > Flag 1 set random value 1-x (or 0-x - 0 counts as flag off while any other number makes the flag on, allowing you to use flag on/off combined with random value).

Then for each unit/group/etc:

Once > time more (t) + Flag 1 = x > Group Activate


This also allows you to swap groups for the same task:

Once > time more (t) + Flag 1 = 1 > Group 1 Activate

Once > time more (t) + Flag 1 = 2 > Group 2 Activate


So now when you run the mission and you get to time t, you will either face group 1 or 2, but you don't know which. This can be used for small changes like swapping weapon load outs between the group (ie Group 1 = Su-27 with R-27R but group 2 = same Su-27 with R-27T), to launch completely different groups (Group 1 = Su-27, Group 2 = Tu-160).

 

I can also leave the group the same, always Group 1 for example, and shift time. But there is no simple option for time between, so I would support the idea as a new trigger.

 

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