Do we have a "No Rad" dogfighting mode yet ?

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

If so , i can't enable it. 
Also i'm sometimes seriously stuck in EEGS mode. It will say EEGS at the bottom left of the HUD and i just can't seem to get out of it ? 

 

[Tango3B]

45 minutes ago, Csgo GE oh yeah said:

If so , i can't enable it. 
Also i'm sometimes seriously stuck in EEGS mode. It will say EEGS at the bottom left of the HUD and i just can't seem to get out of it ? 

 

That´s a negative on your first question. The "NO RAD" dogfighting mode is not implemented yet. You will have to manually cycle the radar emission switch as desired which is let´s say a little inconvenient.

Concerning you sometimes being stuck in EEGS mode. I had that happening, too. But it is a very rare occurance, though. I haven´t been able to recreate it so far and thus record a track or a short vid of it happening. If you have a track or by any chance made a video while it happened to you please upload it here as I strongly suspect this to be a bug. There a two ways to get out of this: either press ACM on your radar display and select CRM which puts you back in RWS or set the dogfight mode switch briefly to DOGFIGHT OVRD and then back to CTR position which does the same thing. That´s how I do it and it works for me 100%. Again, if you can provide a track or a vid go ahead and do it.

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

I also tried to reproduce the stuck in EEGS mode. But i can't even figure out how to get IN that mode . I think it's a gun only mode or something and i feel it happens when i jettision my tanks in some way. 
Meh i'll try some more , if i figure it out i'll report back

[Tango3B]

14 minutes ago, Csgo GE oh yeah said:

I also tried to reproduce the stuck in EEGS mode. But i can't even figure out how to get IN that mode . I think it's a gun only mode or something and i feel it happens when i jettision my tanks in some way. 
Meh i'll try some more , if i figure it out i'll report back

See, that´s my problem, too. I had it happen to me two or three times on Growling´s server when I was close to a bandit and selected dogfight mode to employ an Aim-120 from pretty close range. As I said it is a very rare occurance. After the engagement I was stuck in that mode which didn´t make any sense to me - just like you might have experienced it. And that´s about it. Currently I can´t contribute anything more helpful than that. I´ll also try to get something useful on that issue.

Edited March 9, 2021 by Tango3B

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

Well i know how to make it happen  now ... 

The "SMS" buttons are not functioning properly. When you start a mission in a hot plane , and you go to either dogfight or missile mode, your right MFD will show an "SMS" page. 
On that page in the top left if you press "AAM" you go to "GUN" mode, and then you will have the 'EEGS' displayed on your HUD. 
You can switch back and forth with that "AAM"/"GUN" button but : 

 

On the "SMS" page i previously mentioned, there are two 'SMS" buttons around that right MFD. If you press the top right one you get into some main menu and you can never return to the first SMS page you were. 

 

Edited March 9, 2021 by Csgo GE oh yeah

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

Wait, i figured it out. 
Ok i'll try to make a video of how to fix it. Man i must be really stupid because the menu's and submenu's in the F16 are SO UN-intuitive (to me at least)

 

 

Edited March 9, 2021 by Csgo GE oh yeah

[Tango3B]

3 minutes ago, Csgo GE oh yeah said:

Wait, i figured it out. 
Ok i'll try to make a video of how to fix it. Man i must be really stupid because the menu's and submenu's in the F16 are SO UN-intuitive (to me at least)

 

 

 

Ok, cool. Seems totally different to how I got into that mode but who cares. Show what you´ve got and how you got into it. I am curious now...^^

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

I think if you switch to dogfight mode , while being out of missiles it automatically goes to gun mode (EEGS). So maybe you can't even get out of it if you're out of missiles. 
However, if you are stuck in EEGS while you still have missiles, the "SMS" and even more so the "INV" buttons are your way out lol

 

 

[Tango3B]

2 minutes ago, Csgo GE oh yeah said:

I think if you switch to dogfight mode , while being out of missiles it automatically goes to gun mode (EEGS). So maybe you can't even get out of it if you're out of missiles. 
However, if you are stuck in EEGS while you still have missiles, the "SMS" and even more so the "INV" buttons are your way out lol

 

Interesting. Yeah, I think had at least one missile left. But the solution to get back to CRM/RWS works, too. Ok, I see if I can recreate and make a vid. I am going to fly on Growling´s server this evening so let´s see if I can recreate that issue. Fingers crossed...

[Tango3B]

OK, I watched your vid...it came online later than my reply. What you showcase in your vid is actually correct behavior of the menu structure in the F-16C that we have in DCS. And it is indeed totally different from what I meant in my post. And it might be confusing to you, too - I totally understand that. But there is actually nothing wrong. Ok, wish me luck that I can recreate tonight what I suspect to be a bug...

 

*** I need to add something. The "two SMSs" you see are also correct. The OSB functions on the left and right can be used to "configure" the bottom row of OSBs that can be switched via HOTAS command. This is also intended behavior and thus correct. Appologize my ignorance.

Edited March 9, 2021 by Tango3B

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

No no, apologies for MY ignorance   . I just don't get these menu's i guess. Ok i'll keep an eye on this topic to see what you mean in your case Lthumb_up: 

Edited March 9, 2021 by Csgo GE oh yeah

[VampireNZ]

Just checking your vid and not sure what issue you are having? You selected A-A mode and it placed you in A-A mode with Aim-9X selected in air-air missile mode (AAM). If you want Aim-120 then long-press your missile step button on stick. You then selected in MFD to switch to GUN mode and the Enhanced Envelope Gun Sight was selected - which is what you asked for by pressing that OSB.  You then de-selected GUN mode and went back to A-A missiles. Are you wondering why we don't have other gun modes available yet? Like LCOS etc - WIP I believe.

 

The SMS page is correct in that it shows you your missile count and BORE/SLAVE selection for the missile. You then selected the SMS MFD page at bottom row, and told the aircraft you wanted the SMS page to be displayed there instead by selecting SMS at OSB 6 (You could select any one of those options to replace the SMS selection at bottom row). It then displayed the 'other' SMS page option with is the complete aircraft inventory (which enables you to manually select specific stations etc for jettison or whatever by hitting the OSBs aligned with each station once or multiple times to jettison the whole rack, or just check aircraft loadout in general) - indicated by the highlighted INV at the top as you saw. You then 'de-selected' the Inventory option and it displayed the A-A SMS page as originally displayed.

 

Chuck on ALT HLD and just have a play with the MFD's in flight to get an idea how each works and the available options. What you did there I do right after engine start every flight, so select A-A Master Mode on ICP, then I swap my default weapon to the Aim-120, so when I hit A-A later in mission it brings up that missile not the Aim-9X, if I want that I use DGFT mode on throttle which also activates the 'Cool' function (not activated using A-A Master Mode, which is why it still shows 'Warm'). You can 'pre-select' all the lower line of options for each MFD in each mode on the ground before you go flying, then just hit one button (A-A or A-G) and use DMS on stick to swap between MFD screens - shouldn't need to hit an OSB when past the IP so to speak. Ingress to target, select A-G Master Mode then select MRM on throttle to scan for air threats, at IP then just cancel MRM and you are straight into A-G ready to employ weapons (as you set both A-G mode MFD's up before you took of), dropped bombs - back to MRM mode using throttle.

 

Sry for wall of text - Hope that all helps

 

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

Apparently my issue was that i did not understand the modes and submodes. 

Thanks for your explanation. One thing i noticed though, in dogfight mode there is no inventory button available like there is in A-A master mode. 

Is this correct ?
So : 
1) I switch to dogfight mode. There's my first "SMS" page where i can select missile and 'cool' and 'warm' and whatnot. 
Once i opt out of that screen there is no way to get back to it while i'm in dofgight mode. 

 

Edited March 13, 2021 by Csgo GE oh yeah

[Machalot]

6 hours ago, Csgo GE oh yeah said:

Once i opt out of that screen there is no way to get back to it while i'm in dofgight mode. 

I think this is also the case in AA and AG modes. The specific SMS page can't be reached except by leaving and reentering the master mode. Doesn't seem correct.