normanleto Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 In a book Viper Pilot (I strongly recommend it), Dan Hampton - the pilot describes marking an overfly point as a very easy task in f-16CJ (wild weasel). Is there a way in current state of development of DCS Viper, to make such point mark exactly in the place where plane is while pushing this button? And what button is that? He describes it's somewhere on ICP panel, but I have no idea which it could be. He used it to mark a point of an old runway entry to guide his wingmen into landing in zero visibility sandstorm. Is there a way to send such a point to your wingmen in multiplayer via Datalink on HSD? It would be quite an useful thing. ...10 years with dcs...
kengou Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 The Mark screen on the DED should be what you're looking for. Pretty sure it isn't implemented yet (like most DED functions). 1 Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD
Viking 1-1 Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 Not there yet... Like many many other things... Before you call everything a "bug": RTFM & try again! Thank you. :music_whistling: I9-9900k, 32 GB RAM, Geforce RTX 2080 TI, 128 GB M2 SSD, 1 TB SSD, Track IR, Warthog Hotas
bart Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Viking 1-1 said: Not there yet... Like many many other things... It's a shame that Wags or someone else from ED won't come forward and give us a rough list of the "substantial new Viper features" that are coming with the eventual release of 2.7 1 System :- i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12 core, ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming, 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz, 24GB Asus ROG Strix Geforce RTX 3090, 1x 500GB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, 1x 2TB Samsung 980 PRO M.2, Corsair 1000W RMx Series Modular 80 Plus Gold PSU, Windows 10. VIRPIL VPC WarBRD Base with HOTAS Warthog Stick and Warthog Throttle, VIRPIL ACE Interceptor Pedals, VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus Base with a Hawk-60 Grip, HP Reverb G2.
Linx Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, bart said: It's a shame that Wags or someone else from ED won't come forward and give us a rough list of the "substantial new Viper features" that are coming with the eventual release of 2.7 Rumor around the block is that it is the eagerly anticipated revised Chinese manual. 1 1
VampireNZ Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 One implementation of the DED MARK Points system - no doubt ED will have a 'slightly different version'.... The MARK mode rotary will cycle through the 4 existing modes via SEQ in this order: HUD, TGP, OFLY, FCR. When entering DED MARK page (ICP 7 button) the MARK mode will be set automatically according to the master mode and relevant sensors state. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes, the FCR is in AG mode (not AGR), the FCR is the SOI and the FCR is designating something, MARK mode will be automatically set to FCR. When entering MARK page at this state, a FCR MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes, the TGP is in AG mode, the TGP is the SOI and ground stabilized, MARK mode will be automatically set to TGP. When entering MARK mode at this state, a TGP MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes and conditions are not sufficient to set FCR or TGP modes, MARK mode will be automatically set to HUD. If the system is in AA master mode, MARK mode will be automatically set to OFLY. When entering MARK mode at this state, an OFLY MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. MARK HUD functionality: When the system is in NAV or AG master modes and the MARK mode is set to HUD, an HMC (HUD MARK Cue) will appear in the HUD. The HMC is a 12mr circle with a 1mr aiming dot inside it. There are 2 states for MARK HUD mode, pre-designate and post designate. In pre-designate mode the HMC will appear on the FPM, The cue then can be slewed to the desired position and a TMS-Forward will ground stabilize it. At this stage the position of the actual MARK may be refined using the cursors, then a second TMS-Forward will mark the point. When the cue is ground stabilized, a TMS-AFT will cancel the stabilization and return to pre-designate mode and the HMC will be again placed on the FPM. Note that if trying to ground stabilize or mark with TMS-Forward when the cue is not on the ground, nothing will happen. If setting with the ICP sequence (SEQ) button a MARK mode which does not match the current system and sensors state (for example setting FCR mode when the system is in AA master mode) and trying to mark, an OFLY MARKPOINT will be recorded. Use TMS-Forward (in all modes) to set MARK point. When at MARKPOINT DED page and the current MARKPOINT is valid (has positional data) then M-SEL button (ICP 0) is used to set the MARKPOINT as the current active steer point. When at MARKPOINT DED page and pressing one of the 1-9 ICP buttons, a MARK mode change will happen (just like using the sequence button). Just like any other steer point, a recorded MARK point can be sent to another aircraft via the IDM. 3 Vampire
normanleto Posted March 16, 2021 Author Posted March 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, VampireNZ said: One implementation of the DED MARK Points system - no doubt ED will have a 'slightly different version'.... The MARK mode rotary will cycle through the 4 existing modes via SEQ in this order: HUD, TGP, OFLY, FCR. When entering DED MARK page (ICP 7 button) the MARK mode will be set automatically according to the master mode and relevant sensors state. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes, the FCR is in AG mode (not AGR), the FCR is the SOI and the FCR is designating something, MARK mode will be automatically set to FCR. When entering MARK page at this state, a FCR MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes, the TGP is in AG mode, the TGP is the SOI and ground stabilized, MARK mode will be automatically set to TGP. When entering MARK mode at this state, a TGP MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes and conditions are not sufficient to set FCR or TGP modes, MARK mode will be automatically set to HUD. If the system is in AA master mode, MARK mode will be automatically set to OFLY. When entering MARK mode at this state, an OFLY MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. MARK HUD functionality: When the system is in NAV or AG master modes and the MARK mode is set to HUD, an HMC (HUD MARK Cue) will appear in the HUD. The HMC is a 12mr circle with a 1mr aiming dot inside it. There are 2 states for MARK HUD mode, pre-designate and post designate. In pre-designate mode the HMC will appear on the FPM, The cue then can be slewed to the desired position and a TMS-Forward will ground stabilize it. At this stage the position of the actual MARK may be refined using the cursors, then a second TMS-Forward will mark the point. When the cue is ground stabilized, a TMS-AFT will cancel the stabilization and return to pre-designate mode and the HMC will be again placed on the FPM. Note that if trying to ground stabilize or mark with TMS-Forward when the cue is not on the ground, nothing will happen. If setting with the ICP sequence (SEQ) button a MARK mode which does not match the current system and sensors state (for example setting FCR mode when the system is in AA master mode) and trying to mark, an OFLY MARKPOINT will be recorded. Use TMS-Forward (in all modes) to set MARK point. When at MARKPOINT DED page and the current MARKPOINT is valid (has positional data) then M-SEL button (ICP 0) is used to set the MARKPOINT as the current active steer point. When at MARKPOINT DED page and pressing one of the 1-9 ICP buttons, a MARK mode change will happen (just like using the sequence button). Just like any other steer point, a recorded MARK point can be sent to another aircraft via the IDM. Thanks, Vampire. I assume you get this from f-16 manual It's not as simple as Dan Hampton described it, but I believe you have to make things easier in book not to bore any reader. Let's hope ED will do it right, it will be very useful function... ...10 years with dcs...
Ignition Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, bart said: It's a shame that Wags or someone else from ED won't come forward and give us a rough list of the "substantial new Viper features" that are coming with the eventual release of 2.7 If we are very, very, VERY lucky we will get jdam. But don't expect much since all the developers are focused on the hornet, for almost a year now? I hope they finish the F18 when 2.7 arrives so they can focus on the F16 once and for all. 2
TobiasA Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 vor 7 Stunden schrieb kengou: The Mark screen on the DED should be what you're looking for. Pretty sure it isn't implemented yet (like most DED functions). Yeah, it is not. More to come in the future.
Rosly Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 On 3/16/2021 at 8:10 PM, VampireNZ said: One implementation of the DED MARK Points system - no doubt ED will have a 'slightly different version'.... The MARK mode rotary will cycle through the 4 existing modes via SEQ in this order: HUD, TGP, OFLY, FCR. When entering DED MARK page (ICP 7 button) the MARK mode will be set automatically according to the master mode and relevant sensors state. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes, the FCR is in AG mode (not AGR), the FCR is the SOI and the FCR is designating something, MARK mode will be automatically set to FCR. When entering MARK page at this state, a FCR MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes, the TGP is in AG mode, the TGP is the SOI and ground stabilized, MARK mode will be automatically set to TGP. When entering MARK mode at this state, a TGP MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. If the system is in NAV or AG master modes and conditions are not sufficient to set FCR or TGP modes, MARK mode will be automatically set to HUD. If the system is in AA master mode, MARK mode will be automatically set to OFLY. When entering MARK mode at this state, an OFLY MARKPOINT will be automatically recorded. MARK HUD functionality: When the system is in NAV or AG master modes and the MARK mode is set to HUD, an HMC (HUD MARK Cue) will appear in the HUD. The HMC is a 12mr circle with a 1mr aiming dot inside it. There are 2 states for MARK HUD mode, pre-designate and post designate. In pre-designate mode the HMC will appear on the FPM, The cue then can be slewed to the desired position and a TMS-Forward will ground stabilize it. At this stage the position of the actual MARK may be refined using the cursors, then a second TMS-Forward will mark the point. When the cue is ground stabilized, a TMS-AFT will cancel the stabilization and return to pre-designate mode and the HMC will be again placed on the FPM. Note that if trying to ground stabilize or mark with TMS-Forward when the cue is not on the ground, nothing will happen. If setting with the ICP sequence (SEQ) button a MARK mode which does not match the current system and sensors state (for example setting FCR mode when the system is in AA master mode) and trying to mark, an OFLY MARKPOINT will be recorded. Use TMS-Forward (in all modes) to set MARK point. When at MARKPOINT DED page and the current MARKPOINT is valid (has positional data) then M-SEL button (ICP 0) is used to set the MARKPOINT as the current active steer point. When at MARKPOINT DED page and pressing one of the 1-9 ICP buttons, a MARK mode change will happen (just like using the sequence button). Just like any other steer point, a recorded MARK point can be sent to another aircraft via the IDM. Seems this is implement now, but not exactly as described. Creating a markpoint still requries TMS FWD regardless or RDR GM mode with SPI or TGP with SPI (or I wrongly understood the description. VampireNZ from where you got this?
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