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Doing lots of SEAD missions and I never get the SAMs to engage and turn on their radar even if I fly right over them. Are they playing it smart? Maybe a different strategy and load out are required, obviously HARMs only work if the radars are active. If they won’t engage I could use high drag bombs in a low pass or something. But baiting them into shooting at me isn’t working. 

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Have the same encounter in my current attempts, 4 missions in and thought I was missing something (maybe I am still). I’m not a mission planner person, never used it before. I’m not seeing anything on it to target. So I spend a lot of time wondering around aimlessly hoping a SAM goes live. Weird thing when I’m not carrying harms (once) I did see one active site. Still learning the design to how this should be flown. 

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12 hours ago, SharpeXB said:

Doing lots of SEAD missions and I never get the SAMs to engage and turn on their radar even if I fly right over them. Are they playing it smart? Maybe a different strategy and load out are required, obviously HARMs only work if the radars are active. If they won’t engage I could use high drag bombs in a low pass or something. But baiting them into shooting at me isn’t working. 

 

6 hours ago, =Panther= said:

Have the same encounter in my current attempts, 4 missions in and thought I was missing something (maybe I am still). I’m not a mission planner person, never used it before. I’m not seeing anything on it to target. So I spend a lot of time wondering around aimlessly hoping a SAM goes live. Weird thing when I’m not carrying harms (once) I did see one active site. Still learning the design to how this should be flown. 

Hey, during a mission you should encounter different SAMs, like SA6s, SA8s and SA15s. Unless of course you did a great a job and you managed to suppress all air defenses. 😉

 

Could you please provide me the codes you inserted. 

 

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I can tell there are SAMs there from the F10 map and Tacview so they haven't been all eliminated plus I keep getting assigned to SEAD for missions

here's my last two mission codes

on Tacview here I can see I'm flying right over these SAMs and they didn't engage me

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1 hour ago, SharpeXB said:

I can tell there are SAMs there from the F10 map and Tacview so they haven't been all eliminated plus I keep getting assigned to SEAD for missions

here's my last two mission codes

on Tacview here I can see I'm flying right over these SAMs and they didn't engage me

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SAMs.jpg


Thanks we are running some tests for the upcoming update, we will check this also. 

 

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On 3/23/2021 at 6:33 PM, petritis said:


Thanks we are running some tests for the upcoming update, we will check this also. 

 

I'm also getting exactly the same behavior, multiple SAM sites but not turning on, so Harm's are useful

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Any plans to fix this in 2.7?

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I did my first campaign on 2.5.6. stable DCS version and did not have this behavior. We launched lots of HARMs.

 

I'm starting now a new campaign on 2.7. DCS version and I also have this problem. No radar SAM.

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On 6/4/2021 at 9:06 AM, Falken2 said:

I did my first campaign on 2.5.6. stable DCS version and did not have this behavior. We launched lots of HARMs.

 

I'm starting now a new campaign on 2.7. DCS version and I also have this problem. No radar SAM.

 

Hey Falken2 we are currently working on an upgrade on Operation Pontus that should be ready in the next days. 🙂

 

 

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So where are we now ?

My experience : SAMS reappeared  when I upgraded DCS in July. Unfortunatly I can't remember if it was 2.7.2.8165.2 or 2.7.3.8494. It was at the rather end of a campaign (85% territory liberated). I still was not assigned any CAS mission due to lack of air superiority (wich I don't understand, but it's an other matter) and no air defense suppression (no kidding).

I installed 2.7.5.10869 and started a new campaign. One sortie (repetead 3 times) : it seems SAMs disappeared again ...

 

 

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SAMs are definitely engaging now. 😮

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