SharpeXB Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Doing lots of SEAD missions and I never get the SAMs to engage and turn on their radar even if I fly right over them. Are they playing it smart? Maybe a different strategy and load out are required, obviously HARMs only work if the radars are active. If they won’t engage I could use high drag bombs in a low pass or something. But baiting them into shooting at me isn’t working. i9-13900K @ 6.2GHz oc | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Panther= Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Have the same encounter in my current attempts, 4 missions in and thought I was missing something (maybe I am still). I’m not a mission planner person, never used it before. I’m not seeing anything on it to target. So I spend a lot of time wondering around aimlessly hoping a SAM goes live. Weird thing when I’m not carrying harms (once) I did see one active site. Still learning the design to how this should be flown. Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petritis Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 12 hours ago, SharpeXB said: Doing lots of SEAD missions and I never get the SAMs to engage and turn on their radar even if I fly right over them. Are they playing it smart? Maybe a different strategy and load out are required, obviously HARMs only work if the radars are active. If they won’t engage I could use high drag bombs in a low pass or something. But baiting them into shooting at me isn’t working. 6 hours ago, =Panther= said: Have the same encounter in my current attempts, 4 missions in and thought I was missing something (maybe I am still). I’m not a mission planner person, never used it before. I’m not seeing anything on it to target. So I spend a lot of time wondering around aimlessly hoping a SAM goes live. Weird thing when I’m not carrying harms (once) I did see one active site. Still learning the design to how this should be flown. Hey, during a mission you should encounter different SAMs, like SA6s, SA8s and SA15s. Unless of course you did a great a job and you managed to suppress all air defenses. Could you please provide me the codes you inserted. Thanks Petritis "ARGO 2.0 Project Phoenix" UH-1H DLC Campaign - WIP "ARGO" DCS UH-1H DLC SP Campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 I can tell there are SAMs there from the F10 map and Tacview so they haven't been all eliminated plus I keep getting assigned to SEAD for missions here's my last two mission codes on Tacview here I can see I'm flying right over these SAMs and they didn't engage me i9-13900K @ 6.2GHz oc | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petritis Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, SharpeXB said: I can tell there are SAMs there from the F10 map and Tacview so they haven't been all eliminated plus I keep getting assigned to SEAD for missions here's my last two mission codes on Tacview here I can see I'm flying right over these SAMs and they didn't engage me Thanks we are running some tests for the upcoming update, we will check this also. "ARGO 2.0 Project Phoenix" UH-1H DLC Campaign - WIP "ARGO" DCS UH-1H DLC SP Campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oilman100 Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 On 3/23/2021 at 6:33 PM, petritis said: Thanks we are running some tests for the upcoming update, we will check this also. I'm also getting exactly the same behavior, multiple SAM sites but not turning on, so Harm's are useful Asus ROG IX | Intel i7-9700K | RTX 2080TI | G.SKILL 32GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM | Samsung 970 EVO 2TB M2 | LG 43” 4K Monitor | TrackiR | Stream Deck XL | Warthog HOTAS | Cougar MFDs x 3 | Saitek Rudder Pedals | Logitech G13| Corsair Virtuoso Wireless Headset | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 Any plans to fix this in 2.7? i9-13900K @ 6.2GHz oc | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falken2 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I did my first campaign on 2.5.6. stable DCS version and did not have this behavior. We launched lots of HARMs. I'm starting now a new campaign on 2.7. DCS version and I also have this problem. No radar SAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petritis Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 On 6/4/2021 at 9:06 AM, Falken2 said: I did my first campaign on 2.5.6. stable DCS version and did not have this behavior. We launched lots of HARMs. I'm starting now a new campaign on 2.7. DCS version and I also have this problem. No radar SAM. Hey Falken2 we are currently working on an upgrade on Operation Pontus that should be ready in the next days. "ARGO 2.0 Project Phoenix" UH-1H DLC Campaign - WIP "ARGO" DCS UH-1H DLC SP Campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falken2 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 So where are we now ? My experience : SAMS reappeared when I upgraded DCS in July. Unfortunatly I can't remember if it was 2.7.2.8165.2 or 2.7.3.8494. It was at the rather end of a campaign (85% territory liberated). I still was not assigned any CAS mission due to lack of air superiority (wich I don't understand, but it's an other matter) and no air defense suppression (no kidding). I installed 2.7.5.10869 and started a new campaign. One sortie (repetead 3 times) : it seems SAMs disappeared again ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpeXB Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 SAMs are definitely engaging now. i9-13900K @ 6.2GHz oc | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | 24GB GeForce RTX 4090 | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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