Later Ataka variants?

[Colin0221]

Would there ever be a possibility of us getting the 9M220O AA variant or the 9M120M HEAT with an 8km range?

 

 

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[Northstar98]

I would like to see them (if used on a Mi-24P), but it depends on what year the aircraft is supposed to be representing, and whether or not the aircraft actually fields them (though I imagine it does field the 9M120M).

 

At least here though (unlike the F-16CM and F/A-18C) the aircraft really hasn't changed in terms of the systems since the mid 80s (to my knowledge), apart from the integration of Ataka in the mid 90s. This means that you can accurately depict the aircraft across a wider range of years purely based on weapons availability - the rest is identical and is basically suitable for the mid 80s to present day (unsure about the specific engine variant though).

 

The only difference of course is the removal of Lipa, which is a more modern, post-Soviet thing (though that's only effective against 1st generation IRH MANPADs such as the Strela-2 and Redeye), though you can still see recent examples that still have it installed (though it might be disconnected). 

Edited April 14, 2021 by Northstar98

[Fri13]

3 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

I would like to see them (if used on a Mi-24P), but it depends on what year the aircraft is supposed to be representing.

 

I recall that it is a modern one as said that lately the LIPA SOEP-V1A IR jammer has been in process to be removed why we don't have it simulated, a system that is stated to be ineffective against anything newer than blowpipe, so 60-70's era missiles. 

 

[Schmidtfire]

Im sure ED will develop the appropriate weapons. They have really good insight and information on the Hind.
My guess is that the 9M120M HEAT is too new.

Edited April 13, 2021 by Schmidtfire

[Fri13]

 

Need to remember that we don't benefit from the 9M120M with 8 km range at all, as we are limited to 3x and 10x optical sight magnification. The 10x magnification offers likely about 110-120 meters wide FOV at 1000 meters. So at 5000 meters you are looking about 550-600 meters wide scene.

At 8000 meters you would be looking about 1000 meters wide scene.

 

You just are not going to get a shot at that and if you would manage to get the large vehicle (a truck with tarp) on clear contrasty scene (sitting in yellow the crop field in direct sunlight) you likely are going to miss as I don't think the sight and system can by any means deliver accurate guidance commands at those ranges to even spot the missile. 

 

So you would need a much higher magnification and improved targeting systems to utilize such ranges. 

Even with a KA-50 and its 7x and 23x magnification it is challenging to engage targets at 8 km range.

 

The 7x is too narrow for KA-50 use in many cases, why it is great we have 3x in the Mi-24 as you don't have contrast lock and automatic target tracking, but need to keep pointing the stabilized sight at the target.