ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 15, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 15, 2021 Hi all, It is important to please remove all unofficial mods, some have been creating problems for dcs 2.7 run a full cleanup and repair or verify if steam ensure windows 10 is up to date and all drivers. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanleto Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Flappie said: Run your file explorer (Win key + E) Drive C:\ Users (your username) Saved Games Select DCS.openbeta, hit F2, add something at the end of the name, like "_backup" Enter Here. Once you've renamed the Saved Games\DCS... folder: Start the game, and then exit: there is now a brand new Saved Games\DCS... folder. Get in your old Saved Games\DCS... folder, then in Config, then Input. Copy all files. Get in your new Saved Games\DCS... folder, then in Config, then Input. Paste. Launch the game: you should have your custom controls back. Thanks Flappie, seems to work for me. SU-25 crash report in some other post is therefore related to this thread, not the su-25 free flight mission. Edited April 15, 2021 by normanleto 1 ...10 years with dcs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kersaint Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: Hi all, It is important to please remove all unofficial mods, some have been creating problems for dcs 2.7 run a full cleanup and repair or verify if steam ensure windows 10 is up to date and all drivers. thanks Hello everyone, yes that's what I did afterwards I deleted all these unofficial mods, I had an Aircraft folder with planes, like A-4E-C, MirageF1 2.5.5, mirage F1 CT 2.5.5, VSN_SEM and this prevented the start of version 2.7, I was even able to recover the DCS Openbeta folder that I had put in backup , so I recovered my full config. Thank you to Bignewy and all of you for your efforts in finding solutions. Kind regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogdud Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: It is important to please remove all unofficial mods, some have been creating problems for dcs 2.7 Newy/Flappie, I believe this was my issue. I had a couple mods (english cockpits for ka50, m2000 and the AH6J). Once I removed the mods folder I have been loading missions all morning without issue. It appears to have been resolved. For others with the issue, just make sure mods are completely gone and it may fix the issue for you. Thanks for the help! Edited April 15, 2021 by Boogdud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 15, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Boogdud said: Newy/Flappie, I believe this was my issue. I had a couple mods (english cockpits for ka50, m2000 and the AH6J). Once I removed the mods folder I have been loading missions all morning without issue. It appears to have been resolved. For others with the issue, just make sure mods are completely gone and it may fix the issue for you. Thanks for the help! no worries, good to see you have fixed it. Dont worry I am sure the mod creators will work out what needs tweaking to work with 2.7 thanks for letting us know Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin88 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 My game keeps crashing a lot when loading missions despite the mentioned fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flia Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Same here. My DCS crashing after i leave mission and trying to fly it for secnont time. I remove all my mods ( i have only skins ) and no change. Still crashing. PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikaj Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Mine too after pressing lshift+r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin88 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I am reinstalling the whole thing because this is ridiculous. Fingers crossed that it will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flia Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I think i found the solution for my crashes. I was looking in the options ani i noticed the fullscreen is checked. I unchecked this option and now DCS doesnt crash at all. I can run mission leave then go to the ME load the mission and still no crash to desktop. Maybe this will help some one. PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin88 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Flia said: I think i found the solution for my crashes. I was looking in the options ani i noticed the fullscreen is checked. I unchecked this option and now DCS doesnt crash at all. I can run mission leave then go to the ME load the mission and still no crash to desktop. Maybe this will help some one. Just when I hit uninstall:-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoetic6 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) I did a backup of my DCS.openbeta folder, launched the game and created a mission. It launched fine, but as soon as I did SHIFT-R (the restart mission keybind) the game crashed again. Unticking "Full Screen" seems to have fixed the issues, but I'm losing a lot of FPS when not running in fullscreen edit : I've set it back to Full Screen and it seems to still work, gonna do some more testing edit 2 : negative, still crash when put back in full screen edit 3 : ok, I messed with ticking and unticking full screen a couple of times (doing a restart each time), and now it's ticked and don't seem to crash anymore. edit 4 : scratch edit 3 edit 5 : after playing a while on a MP server, just entering the mission edition make the game crash Edited April 15, 2021 by Deadpoetic6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flia Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Deadpoetic6 said: I did a backup of my DCS.openbeta folder, launched the game and created a mission. It launched fine, but as soon as I did SHIFT-R (the restart mission keybind) the game crashed again. Unticking "Full Screen" seems to have fixed the issues, but I'm losing a lot of FPS when not running in fullscreen edit : I've set it back to Full Screen and it seems to still work, gonna do some more testing Interesting finding PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin88 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Reinstalled the entire game, no old user files in any folders and it keeps crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakedoc Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) an update on my end. I did the following procedure: - renamed DCS saved games folder - deleted the Drive:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\terrains\*Terrain name*\misc\metacache\dcs folder (repetead this for all the terrains I own) - deleted the Drive:\Users\*username*\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS.openbeta folder - performed a DCS repair - check all files (slow) - launched the game and re-applied all settigns as I had before with 2.5.6 - copied the Saved Games\config\input folder for my custom bindings - copied the logbook.lua file from the backup folder - copied the autoexec.cfg custom file from the backup folder so far no crashes on launching any mission multiple times. I have tested only the preloaded mission that comes with each module (e.g. free flight) in all the terrains I have. I did a combinations of A10C II, F16, FA18, FC3 on caucasus, PG and Syria on the same game session. I'll update here in case I encounter any further crashing *update* loaded for the second time a custom mission (A10C II BFT Campaign mission 2) and it crashed again log attached dcs.20210415-151923.log dcs.20210415-151923.crash dcs.20210415-151923.dmp Edited April 15, 2021 by Snakedoc 1 ASUS ROG STRIX Z490 F-GAMING | i7-10700K | RTX3090 TUF OC | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | Windows 10 64bit | Acer Predator X34P | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog | TM T.Flight Rudder Pedals A-10C | A-10C II | F/A-18C | F-16C | FC3 | PG | Syria | SC Home made F-16C simulator Forum Thread: DCS World forum - The Viper Project - Home Cockpits Instagram: The Viper Project YouTube The Viper Project - Youtube channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) I tried everything suggested, currently running unmodded with newest graphics drivers and it will inevitably crash, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Many fixes are just placebo because sometimes it will work just fine. And we know it is not related to AMD or Nvidia, both are experiencing it, it's probably some kind of memory allocation issue and that would explain randomness of it. Vulkan plz save us all Now for some people it never crashes, can somebody without issues post their dxdiag? What I am most interested in is amount of VRAM, RAM, Page file size, Windows version etc... Edited April 15, 2021 by XPACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Clark Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I'm also having this problem. My OpenBeta install isn't new but it's mostly clean as I primarily play in Stable and only have Open Beta for testing. Oil In The Water Hornet Campaign. Bunny's: Form-Fillable Controller Layout PDFs | HOTAS Kneeboards | Checklist Kneeboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuschmu Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Well, this is weird! I tried DCS update 2.7 now on two Win10 pro PCs. One is a I7 CPU, 16GB RAM and GTX 1080/8GB and the other new one is a I9/32GB RAM system with a RTX 3090/24GB. On one system DCS crashes each time when I spawn the Viggen (and be sure, I applied all the above proposed repairs). Though with all other aircrafts there is no problem, no crash! On the other system DCS does not crash at all, even when I span the Viggen! So, now guess on which system DCS crashes ... ... aaawwh, it's the new system with the I9 CPU, 32GB RAM and RTX 3090/24GB!! Waiting for a patch, whoever brings it up (ed, nvidia, heatblur, ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovacs Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Hi, Same thing for me , with DCS: P-47D Wolfpack Campaign , the second mission crashed at the end, when I wanted to leave it, disgusted (missions are long) No mods. Kr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzgerov Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I'm having the "second Load crash" as well. Even happens when looking at replay track after a mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin88 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Is this issue being officially investigated? I see the "remove unofficial mods" tag but it is not the root of the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wali763 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Im also having this problem. Or (for now) had it. I did the Savegame-folder-renaming and since then it worked for me. Only 8 different missions with 10-15 LShift+R, that killed DCS for me before. Only set the videosettings (minus the mirrors) to what I had before and up to now only have reimportet my flightlog and loaded the inputsettings of 5 aircraft so far. My missions are still in the "old" folder, but I already loaded two of them with no problem. At least for now. And I havent used MSIAfterburner yet, that was on most of the time recently due to some other problems. Before I had no mods other than SRS installed and my complete DCS-install was only 1 month old. EDIT: five minutes later: jumped into the Huey, loaded my input-settings, reloades the mission and DCS crashed..... Tried a second time and again it crashed. Edited April 16, 2021 by Wali763 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Martin88 said: Is this issue being officially investigated? I see the "remove unofficial mods" tag but it is not the root of the issue. That tag was placed by forum moderator... Game mods are not causing this and it's 100% tested and confirmed. I didn't even have mods in the first place except tacview script but I did clean reinstall after without user data and issue still remains. There are many ways to reproduce the crash but not with 100% consistency. Sometimes you can load single mission multiple times without problem... But if that happens I can reproduce the crash by going to a different mission and then loading first one once again, it will always crash on loading screen for me. Edited April 16, 2021 by XPACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Wali763 said: EDIT: five minutes later: jumped into the Huey, loaded my input-settings, reloades the mission and DCS crashed..... Tried a second time and again it crashed. Exactly it comes and goes. Currently there is no suggested solution that works, at least for me. Can you post your dxdiag I am on a witch hunt trying to figure out what we all have in common I am also tempted to put my main GPU into the old Haswell build just to see if it crashes there, my guess would be no as it seems, at least with this data I got, to affect modern configurations more and all were Intel based so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wali763 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Where can I find the dxdiag? Its not in the Log-folder in my savegame-folder. The thrid and second last line of my log from the last start is as follows: 2021-04-16 15:59:56.669 INFO DCS: dxdiag.exe /64bit /whql:off /t "D:\SavedGames\DCS.openbeta\Logs\dxdiag.txt" 2021-04-16 16:00:02.913 INFO DCS: 'D:\SavedGames\DCS.openbeta\Logs\dxdiag.txt' deleted successfully BTW. I deleted the Input-folder for the Huey and set the inputs manually. After that it worked for several "LShift+R". But not sure, for how long. I now enabled the Full debug log with the autoexec.cfg Edited April 17, 2021 by Wali763 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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