Midgard Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Same here, second load crash occasionally. No mods, clean install, It can happen for hours and suddenly another hour stops happening, it is impossible to replicate. i9 9900k, 2080super, 32gb 3600, nvme install, w10. I have the latest nvidia drivers, I'm going to try updating windows, but it is in one of the latest versions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 I see you got around to it, thanks for dxdiag you can always run dxdiag, you just need to type it into search and when it opens up click on save all information, but LShift+R in DCS will work too for now haha You are the first that posted dxdiag that is using newest AMD CPU so my assumption that it's only Intel 9th and 10th gen is incorrect afterall... You have 64GB of ram and hefty amount of page file so that is out of the question also, I am mind boggled how it isn't affecting everyone... 1 minute ago, Midgard said: It can happen for hours and suddenly another hour stops happening, it is impossible to replicate. Just flew in MiG-29S for an hour and I reloaded the mission and then flew another 20mins without issues. Very weird issue we got on our hands here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wali763 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Strange thing is also, that sometimes DCS.exe stays in the tasklist, so when starting again, you get the message of the second instance, that is not allowed. So you need to manually quit dcs.exe to be able to restart it. Also happened, when I choose at the end of a mission "Quit to desktop", so after a "normal" closedown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 For me updating drivers, disabling mods, removing all stuff in Saved Games except ctrl config and logbook didn't help initially - the game was still always crashing when loading the second mission (for the record I was switching only between Instant Caucasus missions - free flight for P-51D and hot start for TF-51D). Tried disabling the Full Screen option suggested above and I can confirm - it seems to have solved the issue on my PC as well. The problem is - I NEED Full Screen ON for the V-Sync to work, but here comes the strange part - when I Alt-Enter during the first mission to force the game to go Full Screen after all - DCS remains stable actually and doesn't crash when loading multiple next missions (don't have to repeat Alt-Entering anymore). To sum it up: a) FS option ON - crashfest; b) FS option OFF but FS is enabled later by Alt-Enter'ing once - haven't experienced any crash (so far). I hope it helps some of the other guys too. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trindade Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, Art-J said: For me updating drivers, disabling mods, removing all stuff in Saved Games except ctrl config and logbook didn't help initially - the game was still always crashing when loading the second mission (for the record I was switching only between Instant Caucasus missions - free flight for P-51D and hot start for TF-51D). Tried disabling the Full Screen option suggested above and I can confirm - it seems to have solved the issue on my PC as well. The problem is - I NEED Full Screen ON for the V-Sync to work, but here comes the strange part - when I Alt-Enter during the first mission to force the game to go Full Screen after all - DCS remains stable actually and doesn't crash when loading multiple next missions (don't have to repeat Alt-Entering anymore). To sum it up: a) FS option ON - crashfest; b) FS option OFF but FS is enabled later by Alt-Enter'ing once - haven't experienced any crash (so far). I hope it helps some of the other guys too. Unfortunately doesn't work for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzgerov Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Switching to non FS solved the crashing so far. 6 consecutive missions and all clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 8 hours ago, metzgerov said: Switching to non FS solved the crashing so far. 6 consecutive missions and all clear Try to switch between different ones with different jets that almost always triggers it for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooseSeal Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 This is affecting me too. Never had any crashes before, now every time I load a mission the second time. Oh well, I've sent my crash reports. One can only hope a hotfix for this is their top priority! - i7-7700k - 32GB DDR4 2400Mhz - GTX 1080 8GB - Installed on SSD - TM Warthog DCS Modules - A-10C; M-2000C; AV8B; F/A-18C; Ka-50; FC-3; UH-1H; F-5E; Mi-8; F-14; Persian Gulf; NTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoklahomaaviator Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I guess I'll jump in here as well. I am getting the same random crashes everyone else is reporting. I've also done the recommended items and it hasn't resolved the problem. Is is possible it's related to SSLR and SSAO being enabled? I never used to use these settings until 2.7. Finally, enabling SSAA causes a crash every time when I start any flight. -Adam dcs.log-20210417-134226.zip Dell Aurora R11, Windows 10 Home 64bit English, Intel i9 10900KF (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 3.7GHz to 5.3GHz w/Thermal Velocity Boost), 64GB Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3400MHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB GDDR6, 24” 1080p 144Hz Free-Sync/G-SYNC compatible monitor, 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee1hy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Update is great but too many crash delete all mods, already repair dcs SSLR,SSAO, off Edited April 17, 2021 by lee1hy creator of ED's official F-16C liveries (WP,OS, 132nd, 152nd, 174th) AH-64D livery contest winner kim_123456#3214 My user files https://shorturl.at/cdKV5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmnsvn Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Hi all, I used to have the same problem and solved it the following way: I did not have full screen enabled in settings but I did have “full screen optimisations disable” in the compatibility options for DCS. Removing it solved the crash issue completely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Thanks for your feedback, @Rmnsvn. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoklahomaaviator Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 5 hours ago, theoklahomaaviator said: I guess I'll jump in here as well. I am getting the same random crashes everyone else is reporting. I've also done the recommended items and it hasn't resolved the problem. Is is possible it's related to SSLR and SSAO being enabled? I never used to use these settings until 2.7. Finally, enabling SSAA causes a crash every time when I start any flight. -Adam dcs.log-20210417-134226.zip 600.94 kB · 1 download So... very interesting. If I uncheck Full Screen in settings, SSAA doesn't cause a crash (and actually functions", SSLR and SSAO actually work with the respective FPS drop and I don't get any crashes. Also interesting, The sim both in menu and in cockpit are still full screen and not "windowed" with Full Screen unchecked. I REALLY hope this helps. -Adam Dell Aurora R11, Windows 10 Home 64bit English, Intel i9 10900KF (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 3.7GHz to 5.3GHz w/Thermal Velocity Boost), 64GB Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3400MHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB GDDR6, 24” 1080p 144Hz Free-Sync/G-SYNC compatible monitor, 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Reverted to 461.72 drivers today after reading the other thread and trying to tackle the other issue - performance loss. Gained 3-4 fps, but the dreaded crashes came back with a vengence, even with the Full Screen OFF trick. So updated to 466.11 one more time and the game seems to be stable again. Edited April 17, 2021 by Art-J i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfnelson0127 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I'm running full screen off with 466.11 drivers. I've tried both the full screen optimizations both enabled AND disabled. Neither option has resolved the problem. Additionally, I've deleted the A4E Skyhawk mod, which was the only unofficial mod (aside from some aircraft skins) that I've used. I've also uninstalled Re-shade. I've run MULTIPLE repairs through Steam. Nothing seems to actually be fixing this for me. Is there anything others are doing that I have missed? I am considering running a driver clean and do a full reinstall of my Nvidia drivers, but I really don't want to go through the trouble if it's going to yield the same unsuccessful results I've already had. Has anyone done a full game reinistall? Has that worked? Appreciate the insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, jfnelson0127 said: Is there anything others are doing that I have missed? Probably no, I tried suggested stuff and much more but nothing seems to fix it permanently. I am currently out of ideas... Yesterday game didn't crash at all, I started game multiple times throughout the day, abused loading missions left and right and no crashes but 30mins ago it started crashing at loading again... two consecitive times in a row on second mission load. Crazy how inconsistent it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habu-z Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Same issue here. I also get the inconsistency. Sometimes I can reproduce it exactly and other times it will go many reloads and be fine. Edited April 18, 2021 by Habu-z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 Well hopefully that fix for Vigen respawn, mission reload and track replay will fix everything else also, at least ED is looking into it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havremonster Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Rmnsvn said: Hi all, I used to have the same problem and solved it the following way: I did not have full screen enabled in settings but I did have “full screen optimisations disable” in the compatibility options for DCS. Removing it solved the crash issue completely. Did not help for me. Still crashing all time. No mods, repair made...nothing helps. But thanks for the advices. dcs.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 18, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 18, 2021 I have marked the thread reported, I was able to reproduce an issue after playing a track replay twice, it looks like it is related to this issue here. thank you all for your logs 4 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee1hy Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I have already sent a lot of crash reports. Currently 2.7 is an unplayable level. We expect to be fixed in the hotfix. creator of ED's official F-16C liveries (WP,OS, 132nd, 152nd, 174th) AH-64D livery contest winner kim_123456#3214 My user files https://shorturl.at/cdKV5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertaquito Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 The crashes have been evolving in my case. It went from every second mission different than the one, and now it crashes every time I press "FLY" just unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wali763 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Strange here. I just tested DCS again (had no time on weekend) and loaded fore sure 20+ missions and reloaded them (Lshift + R or via Debriefing-screen) and all went well. The exited DCS, restarted it and right at the firts missin the reload crashed...... By now ED has about 10+ crashreports from me alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisprinzessin Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I got the same issue, but emptening the folder in AppData seems to have fixed it. Specs: 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900K 3.20 GHz, RAM 128 GB, Win11 Home, RTX3080Ti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) On 4/17/2021 at 4:08 PM, Rmnsvn said: Hi all, I used to have the same problem and solved it the following way: I did not have full screen enabled in settings but I did have “full screen optimisations disable” in the compatibility options for DCS. Removing it solved the crash issue completely. I have exactly that same configuration for years, still having it for 2.7...crashing all the time. Tried all the ideas from this thread but I still having random crashes ONLY when loading a second, third, etc. mission. Edited April 19, 2021 by Ala12Rv-watermanpc Take a look at my MODS here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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