imacken Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Since 2.7, when I slew to a target and press TDC depress, no diamond appears any more. Has something changed or is this a bug? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengou Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Could it be a consequence of one of these items? Changelog: Litening Targeting Pod: Moving Target Lock Errors - Fixed Added Yardstick Value for Targeting Pod Adjust autotrack range Adjust Track frame size Designated with offset cursor has wrong elevation value - Fixed Offset cursor should not be available in area track - Fixed Snowplow up/down slew is reversed when tpod is pointing aft. - Fixed Unable to un-designate in MEM mode - Fixed After coming out of area or point track tgp will not slew - Fixed Offset not ground stabilised when TDC depress is used - Fixed Shows wrong azimuth values and inverts controls - Fixed Does not create a designation when in a tracking mode - Fixed FRZ changes exposure of the picture - Fixed Litening: after switch to INR track after offset push FLIR LOS jumping crazily - Fixed Reticle is not flashing during laser firing like LTD/R - Fixed A/A Radar Slave mode doesn't work if you warm-up the TGP while in A/A - Fixed 1 Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 I suspect not. It has always worked perfectly well, i.e. press TDC depress and target designate diamond appears on DDI. With 2.7, it doesn't, for me at least. Seems kind of fundamental. Try this mission. Designate WP1, fine tune over the target with TPOD TDC and press TDC depress. No diamond appears any more for me. Caucasus FA-18C AGM-65F Maverick Practice IGM.miz Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkku Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I noticed this as well. TDC depress produces no diamond anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinM9991 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Does anything happen if you press SCS toward the DDI that the FLIR is displayed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 Yes, it does the normal area track, point track thing. Offset works too. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drac Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I managed to get a diamond, but don't remember how I got there. I was doing a bunch of TDC depresses and SCS Rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 Yes, but it should turn to a diamond whenever the TDC depress is pressed to designate the target. It's just not doing that. I even went back into the current release version just to check! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOne007 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I recommend dropping the LITENING pod completely and use the ATFLIR instead, as you know, it was actually used by the Hornet and works a lot more natural [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon_120 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, FoxOne007 said: I recommend dropping the LITENING pod completely and use the ATFLIR instead, as you know, it was actually used by the Hornet and works a lot more natural I like the litening more, additionally is the pod used by my country's hornets, so nope, dont think i will stop using it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, FoxOne007 said: I recommend dropping the LITENING pod completely and use the ATFLIR instead, as you know, it was actually used by the Hornet and works a lot more natural Doesn't mean the the Litening POD should stop working! If no one has answer, I think I'll post a bug on this. 7 Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraKhan Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Please, go ahead and post a bug. I downloaded the new update and flew a mission attempting to JDAMs. As noted, targeting pod would not lock up the target. I returned to base, rearmed with JSOWs and few to the target zone. Just as with JDAM, the targeting pod would not lock up the target!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recluse Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 So, for me, I designate a WP and I see a Diamond in the FLIR. I slew, and, like you, hitting TDC Down doesn't give me a Diamond, but it DOES seem to update the designation. If I go SSS right twice to Point Track, TDC DOWN and then SSS right again, it gives me the Diamond. As I said, though it did SEEM to update the Designation upon SLEW-->TDC DOWN even though the diamond did not show up. At least the AGM-65F snapped to the new point. Interestingly when I did SSS LEFT to the MAVERICK page, the diamond appeared in the FLIR! Agreed it is probably a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Yep, I've noticed this as well. Also It seems like TDC designate for e.g. JDAM TOO attacks work, but they are not displayed on the ASL, or on the JDAM attack page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machalot Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 One of the generic sim updates was " Quote Input. Target designator analog axis has a big deadzone in the center - corrected. This might affect the Hornet TDC. Several people in these forums have had problems designating targets in the Viper and Hornet due to barely perceptible noise in their input axes. They fixed it by adding a little deadzone to the TDC slew axes. See if a deadzone brings your diamond back. "Subsonic is below Mach 1, supersonic is up to Mach 5. Above Mach 5 is hypersonic. And reentry from space, well, that's like Mach a lot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 I've put this up as a bug here Litening POD won't show locked target diamond after 2.7 update - Bugs - ED Forums (eagle.ru) No attention to it so far! 1 Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraKhan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Been a month and a half, was hoping it would be easily corrected but apparently not and perhaps never will be the same again? In the mean time, what are the steps that folks doing now to operate their JDAMS and JSOWS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 It has been corrected in this week’s patch! 1 Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraKhan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Well that is good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naizarak Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 but on the flip side they massively nerfed the zoom to match the atflir so now the hornet doesn't have a single good tgp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoGaR Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Hello guys, could you please check my attempts to track a moving target? There are two attempts. One is before and one after the last update. I just cannot lock it. I playing with the contrast / brightness. I think the target is pretty visible. I was able to lock them for a very short period, but then the TGP lost the lock (I was not tweak the TDC depress). BTW I have no issue during the day operations. Here is the video. There are bookmarks in the timeline. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartinDBS Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 hour ago, RoGaR said: Hello guys, could you please check my attempts to track a moving target? This is propably related to an already reported issue: 1 [Modules] A-10C, A-10C II, AH-64D, F-14A/B, F-16C, F/A-18C, FC3, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, CA, SC [Maps] PG, NTTR, Normandy, Sinai, Syria, TC [OS] Windows 11 Pro [PC] MSI Pro Z790-A, i9-13900K, 64 GB DDR5-5200, RTX 4090 24 GB GDDR6X, 2 x SSD 990 PRO 2 TB (M.2), Corsair 5000D Airflow, HX1500i, H150i RGB Elite, Acer X28, TM HOTAS Warthog (Grip@WarBRD Base), MS SW FFB2, Thrustmaster TFRP, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro [Checklists] A-10C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D, Ka-50, UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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