JayRoc Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Happened already the 3. time in half an hour on the blue flag server. Doesnt have to do anything, it just hppens by itself. All icons will disapear and also some menu buttons are not showing up. Only a complete game restart solves the issue. 5 FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | SA342 R5 5600X | 32GB | RX 6800XT | TM Cougar | T-Rudder mk.IV | HP Reverb G2 Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle USB standalone MOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRoc Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 just 5 min later FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | SA342 R5 5600X | 32GB | RX 6800XT | TM Cougar | T-Rudder mk.IV | HP Reverb G2 Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle USB standalone MOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Same here, I can't do GCI in BlueFlag PG because of this issue. Buttons are still there, but they're invisible. Btw, it's not just the F10 map UI buttons that disappear, it's all window buttons in DCS (can only be fixed with a game restart) I never encountered this issue before 2.7, so I'm guessing it's a new bug introduced by 2.7. Edited April 16, 2021 by Hardcard 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemtre Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 same here, after few clicks to buttons at f10 map ui, menu buttons dissapear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierrewind Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) Same here; Happens on regular flights. Asside form impacting the interface, it also bugs the FLOLS and the LSO screens. Edited April 17, 2021 by pierrewind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Apparently this issue isn't unique to MP, it also happens in Mission Editor: 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Problem persists in latest OB 2.7.0.5118 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRoc Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 can confirm FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | SA342 R5 5600X | 32GB | RX 6800XT | TM Cougar | T-Rudder mk.IV | HP Reverb G2 Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle USB standalone MOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parasxos Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Can somebody at ED acknowledge the issue, please? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 I've just tested for half an hour on a 4YA server. I was Tactical commander. I kept changing view (F2, F6, F7, F9, F12, F10), disabling and re-enabling all labels in F10 view. I had no loss of labels nor pictures. I'll try again on a BlueFlag server. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) Thanks @Flappie for looking into the issue. I don't think the issue is limited to MP, though, since people are experiencing it in Mission Editor and main menu as well (myself included): If this were a BF server issue, the effects wouldn't extend to all icons and buttons in DCS, would they? Something is breaking the UI of the entire game. As for BF PG, I'm experiencing this issue a lot, but it doesn't seem to be time related, I'm not sure of what triggers it. Sometimes I lose the icons after just 2 minutes in JTAC slot, sometimes it holds for 10 minutes or longer... but it always ends up happening, it's really annoying. I've performed a clean install of all my modules (including CA), graphics drivers, tried with and without firewall, removed my DCS saved games folder, ran several DCS repairs, etc. No idea of what's causing it, but if you're going to test BF PG, I'd stay in JTAC slot for at least 1 hour (placing marks, selecting units on the map, using the ruler tool, etc.). Edited April 28, 2021 by Hardcard [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Maybe the new "PICTURE CLEAR" function can do this. Are you guys using it? I haven't, so far. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I've just tested a series of PICTURE FOR ALL / PICTURE CLEAR but I couldn't reproduce the issue. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team [ED]Ben Posted April 28, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 28, 2021 Will look into it with Flappie. Thanks Can you submit your DCS log files when you see the issues please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Hardcard said: I don't think the issue is limited to MP, though correct, it happened to me in singleplayer in a mission i made. i couldnt replicate it though. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 8:00 AM, Flappie said: Maybe the new "PICTURE CLEAR" function can do this. Are you guys using it? I haven't, so far. I don't know what that is, never used it. On 4/28/2021 at 8:26 AM, [ED]Obi said: Will look into it with Flappie. Thanks Can you submit your DCS log files when you see the issues please Sure, I'll post it next time this happens, thanks. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hardcard said: I don't know what that is, never used it. ED recently added "PICTURE" functions used to display/mask overlay pictures ingame. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) @Flappie Oh ok, thanks. Here's a fresh dcs.log, it was recording during the last session, I experienced the issue a few minutes into the game. dcs.log Edited April 29, 2021 by Hardcard [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Thanks very much for the log, Hardcard (I'll never thank you enough for the "Google Humvee", by the way! ). Here are the most unusual errors I can see in your log. The name "UnitsLayer" leaves little to no doubt: 2021-04-29 20:35:39.109 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer::: m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end() ... 2021-04-29 20:43:23.132 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer::: m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end() ... 2021-04-29 20:44:37.245 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer::: m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end() ... 2021-04-29 20:47:24.215 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer::: m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end() 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcard Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Flappie said: Thanks very much for the log, Hardcard (I'll never thank you enough for the "Google Humvee", by the way! ). You mean this? Spoiler Your Caucasus map should be included in the game, imho. You did awesome work (Any chances of you doing PG / Syria in the future?) 7 hours ago, Flappie said: Here are the most unusual errors I can see in your log. The name "UnitsLayer" leaves little to no doubt: 2021-04-29 20:35:39.109 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer::: m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end() ... 2021-04-29 20:43:23.132 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer::: m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end() ... 2021-04-29 20:44:37.245 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer::: m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end() ... 2021-04-29 20:47:24.215 UNKNOWN UnitsLayer::: m_obj2ctl.find(obj) != m_obj2ctl.end() Looks like this has been around for years, I've found a reference to it from 2015: I don't think this is related to the problem, but I might be wrong, ofc. Edited April 30, 2021 by Hardcard [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Thanks! Yes, I plan on doing a PG map as well as a Syria map. Also, I was recently told how to project the Caucasus map to mimic the current kneeboard map. This means you might see a kneeboard/F10 map mod someday... Nice find, this old post from Flight Control. The only other significant error that I can see in your log is this one, but I've seen it before in users log who weren't complaining about the icons disappearance, so I guess it's not causing the issue: 2021-04-29 20:26:36.878 ERROR Lua::Config: Call error MarkPanel.show:[string "./dxgui/bind/Widget.lua"]:69: Invalid arguments!. 1 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRoc Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) Is there anything else you may could need? More logs with the exact time when it breaks? On what systems are you guys running? Maybe a problem related to AMD? Edited May 4, 2021 by JayRoc FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | SA342 R5 5600X | 32GB | RX 6800XT | TM Cougar | T-Rudder mk.IV | HP Reverb G2 Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle USB standalone MOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, JayRoc said: Is there anything else you may could need? More logs with the exact time when it breaks? That is a good idea, yes. I have an NVIDIA gfx card but part of the testers have AMDs. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayRoc Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 F10 crash 9-53-30 Berlin time.log F10 crashed at 9:53:30-40 in Berlin time. FC3 | F-14A/B | F-16C | SA342 R5 5600X | 32GB | RX 6800XT | TM Cougar | T-Rudder mk.IV | HP Reverb G2 Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle USB standalone MOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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