Bedouin Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Hi, Have we heard anything about if its possible to fly all solo without a AI co-gunner/pilot or will you have to have it... i know its unrealistic but more if the AI is an annoying dumb fool, then better without him/her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevanJ Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Sure it will. Although- The Hind is getting Petrovich. The Apache is getting Burt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Thunder Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 5:21 PM, StevanJ said: Sure it will. Although- The Hind is getting Petrovich. The Apache is getting Burt. Burt? You mean this guy? 9 PC: MSI X670E, Ryzen 9 7900X, 64GB DDR5 RAM, RTX 3090 Ti, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight pedals, Opentrack Link to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/DieselThunderAviation Commander, 62nd Virtual Fighter Squadron Join the 62nd VFS today! Link to our discord server: https://discord.gg/Z25BSKk84s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo52 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panton41 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) Can we name the AI pilot Ernie? Edited May 6, 2021 by panton41 6 Windows 10 64-bit | Ryzen 9 3900X 4.00GHz (OC) | Asus Strix B450-F | 64GB Corsair Vengeance @ 3000MHz | two Asus GeForce 1070 Founders Edition (second card used for CUDA only) | two Silicon Power 1TB NVMe in RAID-0 | Samsung 32" 1440p Monitor | two ASUS 23" 1080p monitors | ASUS Mixed Reality VR | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind A-10C Warthog | AV-8B Harrier (N/A) | F/A-18C Hornet | F-16C Viper | F-14B Tomcat | UH-1H Huey | P-51D Mustang | F-86F Saber | Persian Gulf | NTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veenee Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 how do you know it's going to be a man? So many modules, so little time... www.mikphotography.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.J.S Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, veenee said: how do you know it's going to be a man? The original choice has been incarcerated. . . . . Nobody can ask her any questions as the outcome of grilling her may just be too good . . . . Edited May 16, 2021 by G.J.S 10 Alien desktop PC, Intel i7-8700 CPU@3.20GHz 6 Core, Nvidia GTX 1070, 16GB RAM. TM Warthog stick and Throttles. Saitek ProFlight pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bies Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) On 4/16/2021 at 10:24 PM, Bedouin said: Hi, Have we heard anything about if its possible to fly all solo without a AI co-gunner/pilot or will you have to have it... i know its unrealistic but more if the AI is an annoying dumb fool, then better without him/her If it will be AH-64D with Fire Control Radar you technically don't even need another guy to destroy 16 enemy tanks, FCR computer makes up for the gunner: park behind some obstacle showing only FCR -> release 16 automatic guided Hellfire missiles to 16 targets detected identified and prioritized by FCR visible on your MFD -> RTB There are good interviews with RL Apache pilots on YT. AH-64D has avionics designed the way each pilot can do everything with some small exceptions, especially when ORT has been replaced by digital display. Mi-24 - or Desert Storm AH-64A - depends on gunner whole lot more (guiding optical and laser guided missiles, searching new targets with optical devices/FLIR) than AH-64D with FCR, computer and radar Hellfires. It's like Tomcat / Strike Eagle analogy: In analog Tomcat or AH-64A both guys have different responsibilities, functions and cockpits, digital Strike Eagle or AH-64D can by operated by one crew member - second is there to decrease the workload. Edited June 14, 2021 by bies 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 8:04 AM, veenee said: how do you know it's going to be a man? A female AI would be too OP. 2 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil-hammer84 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Long as Burt isn't an Acronym for something. Not sure ill mention it here tho'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleCisla Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 So what's the conclusion about this thread? Coz I'm really interested in buying the Apache straight away, even if is missing half of the features, I don't care! lol Will be possible to fly and use all the weapons on your own? Is there really an AI called Burt that will help you? (I don't care about his name, as long as he knows what he's doing, as I probably won't! lol) Would be possible to get an idea from someone that really knows all of this? @NineLine? @BIGNEWY? Help please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crptalk Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Well we've seen from the Mi24 that you aren't allowed to switch seats in multiplayer and you are forced to play from the pilots seat. It will likely stay like that considering you can't switch seats in MP in any other two seat aircraft with separate cockpits. It will be a great disappointment to not be able to manually employ weapons using the TADS solo in multiplayer. Easy fix: Add a dedicated TADS page for the pilot and allow the pilot to control the TADS and employ weapons with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonPhobos Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 En 5/6/2021 a las 6:25, bies dijo: If it will be AH-64D with Fire Control Radar you technically don't even need another guy to destroy 16 enemy tanks, FCR computer makes up for the gunner: park behind some obstacle showing only FCR -> release 16 automatic guided Hellfire missiles to 16 targets detected identified and prioritized by FCR visible on your MFD -> RTB There are good interviews with RL Apache pilots on YT. AH-64D has avionics designed the way each pilot can do everything with some small exceptions, especially when ORT has been replaced by digital display. Mi-24 - or Desert Storm AH-64A - depends on gunner whole lot more (guiding optical and laser guided missiles, searching new targets with optical devices/FLIR) than AH-64D with FCR, computer and radar Hellfires. It's like Tomcat / Strike Eagle analogy: In analog Tomcat or AH-64A both guys have different responsibilities, functions and cockpits, digital Strike Eagle or AH-64D can by operated by one crew member - second is there to decrease the workload. hace 3 horas, AleCisla dijo: So what's the conclusion about this thread? Coz I'm really interested in buying the Apache straight away, even if is missing half of the features, I don't care! lol Will be possible to fly and use all the weapons on your own? Is there really an AI called Burt that will help you? (I don't care about his name, as long as he knows what he's doing, as I probably won't! lol) Would be possible to get an idea from someone that really knows all of this? @NineLine? @BIGNEWY? Help please. Both stations have something the other cannot do. In the case of the CPG station, it does not have engine start controls, and the CMWS control panel, however, it has the TEDAC. The pilot cannot control TADS as a sight. While the gunner can slave the TADS to pilot acquisition sources, it is still under CPG control. FCR can only provide target data handover for RF hellfires, SAL type hellfires require lasing from the TADS LRFD. So you want to be on the pilot station for most of the startup, then switch to the CPG cockpit for combat related stuff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleCisla Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 @DaemonPhobos Okay..... What is CPG? ... and CMWS? ... and TEDAC? ... and TADS? and FCR? ..."hellfires" I guess is the missiles, but what RF stands for? and SAL? ... and what the heck is TADS LRFD??? Sorry those were the only things I didn't understand very well. So the conclusion is that you can't do everything on your own? But you can, if you switch to the other seat...? I'm totally confused now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wychmaster Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) vor einer Stunde schrieb AleCisla: @DaemonPhobos Okay..... What is CPG? ... and CMWS? ... and TEDAC? ... and TADS? and FCR? ..."hellfires" I guess is the missiles, but what RF stands for? and SAL? ... and what the heck is TADS LRFD??? Sorry those were the only things I didn't understand very well. So the conclusion is that you can't do everything on your own? But you can, if you switch to the other seat...? I'm totally confused now... CPG: Co-Pilot Gunner TADS: Target Acquisition and Desination System(The Apaches targetting system) TEDAC: no idea what the letters stand for and I am too lazy to google but it is basically an extra MFD (Multi-function display) with fancy controls that only the gunner has in his cockpit CMWS: Common Missile Warning System FCR: Fire Control Radar LRFD: Laser Range Finder/Designator SAL: Okay, this one I had to actually search for myself -> Semi-Active Laser Stick around for a while and in a few weeks all your friends and family know what these terms stand for Edited July 1, 2021 by Wychmaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 TADS Electronic Display and Controller? Something like that. It's the center MFD in the front seat that replaced the old HDD (Heads Down Display) and ORT (Optical Relay Tube). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleCisla Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Thanks @Wychmaster!!! I'm gonna put all back together in the paragraph and try to make sense of everything now... Thanks @AlphaOneSix too! So as far as I can tell, if we're able to swap seats, then technically is possible to fly and employ weapons... so I guess the question now becomes, can we? Apparently you can't on the HIND, in multiplayer...but what about single player? Is it possible? And the Apache, will follow the same rules??? Too many questions, I know... Man, I can't wait for this helicopter to come out!!! Even if I can't swap seats and do everything, I think I'll still buy it anyway... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonPhobos Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) hace 36 minutos, AleCisla dijo: Thanks @Wychmaster!!! I'm gonna put all back together in the paragraph and try to make sense of everything now... Thanks @AlphaOneSix too! So as far as I can tell, if we're able to swap seats, then technically is possible to fly and employ weapons... so I guess the question now becomes, can we? Apparently you can't on the HIND, in multiplayer...but what about single player? Is it possible? And the Apache, will follow the same rules??? Too many questions, I know... Man, I can't wait for this helicopter to come out!!! Even if I can't swap seats and do everything, I think I'll still buy it anyway... haha Yeah, I definitely used more acronyms than necessary lol. I think (unless I'm forgetting something) that the gunner station is the most complete and independent when you are flying it solo You can use all type of weapons, use the targeting system, and fly the aircraft with your own controls. once you got all the startup procedures done on the pilot cockpit you can just simply switch to gunner and continue from there. I believe that switching from pilot to gunner will still be important so the possibility should be included in SP and MP, especially if mechanical failures/severances on the flight controls between the stations are modeled. Edited July 1, 2021 by DaemonPhobos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26-J39 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 9 hours ago, AleCisla said: Apparently you can't on the HIND, in multiplayer...but what about single player? Is it possible? And the Apache, will follow the same rules??? You can switch seats in single player in the Hind, just not in multi player. The Apache will be no different to the Hind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalan Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 There's only one AI dude possible, if isn't I won't buy the module: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26-J39 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 omg if there's any reference to that cheeseball i wont buy the module 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickleMonster Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 6:29 AM, Crptalk said: Well we've seen from the Mi24 that you aren't allowed to switch seats in multiplayer and you are forced to play from the pilots seat. It will likely stay like that considering you can't switch seats in MP in any other two seat aircraft with separate cockpits. It will be a great disappointment to not be able to manually employ weapons using the TADS solo in multiplayer. Easy fix: Add a dedicated TADS page for the pilot and allow the pilot to control the TADS and employ weapons with it. This is wrong information. Not being able to switch between seats in the Mi-24 is a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crptalk Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 hours ago, PickleMonster said: This is wrong information. Not being able to switch between seats in the Mi-24 is a bug. Is it also a bug you can't switch seats in MP in any other aircraft with separated cockpits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PickleMonster Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I'm going to walk my statement back. I'm sure I saw a post by Nineline saying it was a bug, but I can't find it (so I may have totally misread it). However it is possible to set an option in the ME to set an multicrew aircraft as solo only which allows bouncing between seats. But this is only available on some aircraft right now (which may be what I was reading from Ninelines post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e4mafia Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 4:10 PM, AlphaOneSix said: TADS Electronic Display and Controller? Something like that. It's the center MFD in the front seat that replaced the old HDD (Heads Down Display) and ORT (Optical Relay Tube). Good ****ing riddance to the ORT/C. Having to a a damned boresight/optical alignment of that thing was SUCH a pain in the ass. Long live electronics! But Apache cant have Burt The A10 already has him....... <rimshot> My Box Intel i10-850k, 32GB 3600 DDR, 1TB Crucial M.2 NVMe drive, RTX1080ti "Armor", Rift-S, and a piece of crap low end TM "HOTAS". Hopefully something good inbound -------- Wishlist AH-64 (any model) MH-60 F-117 F-15E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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