Water is too dark and horrible

[IVAN01rch]

I found it more realistic now than before. Still it is not ideal. Here is the picture from the choper: 

If you look beheath it is quite dark.

[Fabiano-VIKING]

On 6/3/2021 at 4:23 AM, falcon_120 said:

Exclusive VR user here,

 

Its not that i don't like the new water as I see some improvements but there are a few things that are off right now, i will do my best to explain what i see:

• Water reflect the clouds too much, or better said it seems that clouds and the sky is reflecting on the water at times where they don't normally do (like when late in the afternoon where you should only see the sun). On top of that, the reflection is not "more or les static" but instead is changing hues and colors a bit; I mean when you see the sky not changing lighting conditions, like the if the sky reflected on water is taken from a Disney movie. Definetely needs tuning...
• Something is off regarding clarity or height perception, don't know what it is but since 2.7, I had 2 crashes on water i haven't had for ages in 2.5.6 because i couldn't discern how close i was to the water until it was to late... Maybe it has to do with how small waves are now, but even low level fliying is quite difficult for me on water. The height perception improves looking 90 degrees left or right but not if i'm looking straight ahead at the HUD. I really don't know what it is....

 

On 6/3/2021 at 10:16 PM, DST said:

Everything improved masssively with the new update, I love the clouds with the jitters gone and the new explosions and smoke effects and everything - but why the hell does the water look so incredibly ugly now? It used to look awesome before 2.7 and now it´s just a glassy black mirror with almost none existant surface effects no matter which graphic options set.

Could some of the devs please state if this is intentional now or WIP or what, I would LOVE to have the awesome looking water back from before 2.7, really don´t get why there has to be such downgrade.

Agreed and also curious to know if this is a WIP. 

[Mustang]

While we wait for official changes from ED there is the shader edits mod that help with the water, both in terms of colour and reflectivity.

 

 

[Fri13]

On 5/25/2021 at 11:17 PM, wilbur81 said:

My honest first impression of 2.7 was not about the clouds, but about how bad the gamma looked, introducing a sort of reddish, washed out hue to everything. If one brings the gamma any lower (I'm a 1.8 guy), the outside world in 2.7 starts to look a little better, but the cockpits become ridiculous.

 

 

I want gamma 1.0 for clouds, and still looks with too low contrast and definition.

 

I want cockpit with 2.1-2.4 depending craft.

 

I want sunshine areas at 1.8 (1.8 guy here too).

 

I want shadow areas at 2.0-2.1.

 

Now the contrast, colors and brightness are all over the places here. I only play with Rift S so it is same for everyone for all Rift S users.

 

Flying at 14 clock in a overcast 4 or so makes everything look almost as a thunderstorm or night with 1.8.

 

Last patch I made observation that I didn't see anything on sea at 4000 ft altitude. Until I went to about 700 ft I started to see some waves, but sea was just black dip to look. And this with 9 m/s wind at sea level.

Edited June 12, 2021 by Fri13

[Mustang]

Did anyone notice the much better looking water in the two videos Wags demoed today?

[zildac]

7 minutes ago, Mustang said:

Did anyone notice the much better looking water in the two videos Wags demoed today?

Not seen them, that's my viewing sorted

[Pride37]

13 hours ago, Mustang said:

Did anyone notice the much better looking water in the two videos Wags demoed today?

 

Yeah I did! Thought it was only a personnal feeling... But it seems the surface texture at distance is much better, and not due to reflexions.

[Lange_666]

2.7 water is quite a step back from 2.5.x.

 

Next 2 shots, water on medium. I'm not impressed at all. It just looks plain, flat and damn ugly.

And then that wake behind the carrier..., seems like an early 90's video game.

 

Edited June 18, 2021 by Lange_666

[Flappie]

2.7 water is still WIP.

[Lange_666]

So WIP water did make it to the stable version and made it look silly.... 

Edited June 18, 2021 by Lange_666

[Jafergon]

If you look at the latest videos Matt has been posting and yesterday's sale trailer you will see that changes are coming to water rendering. This one is particularly revealing. I think the new water will come with the Marianas and the new fog...

 

 

Edited June 19, 2021 by Jafergon

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

Water is definitely being improved according with some of the latest videos and screens. It looks like they are finally fixing the phisically incorrect sun shine (glitter) over the water and adding some wind/temperature blotches over the water's surface, great addition to make the water more accurate!!!!. Some examples:

 

 

However, I still think clouds shadows over water, particularly over the sun shine reflection, should be much darker and more defined. In the images above, they look a bit too bland and soft. They should look something like this:

 

 

 

When looking at the sun reflection over the water in the backlight, the shadows of the clouds casting directly over it, are the most intense ones due to the higher difference in contrast between light reflected and shadows. This effect is great to determine clouds size and heigh over the water and looks stunning at distance. Really hoping ED can manage to bring us this as closer to reality as possible.

 

 

 

Edited June 19, 2021 by Ala12Rv-watermanpc

[Raisuli]

I've finally concluded (after working on CQ) that this is really a problem with the turbulence on the water being single order.  There's wind ripple, and five or six orders of other waves, ripples, and swells going on at once in a dynamic environment.  If you watch videos of aircraft around the boat you can really see how the multiple order turbulence blocks the kind of mirror-like reflections we get. 

 

Is it 'realistic'?  Maybe, but those reflections down low sure aren't.  People are pulling out pictures taken at 40,000 feet just to get close to our waterline reflectivity.  Since I don't think they're going to change the fluid dynamics model my vote would be 'unrealistic' turbulence and more realistic reflections.

 

Well, that and when you look at the wake of the CV doing 27 knots you can't not laugh. Even the Pegasus had more wake than that.