Steinsch Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 Steinsch Flying Virtual F-15s since 1989 YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/c/CommanderSteinsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeagle Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Nice landing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Nice! 1 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volator Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 As of 2.9 something, MiG-29 feels again like ED has moved back to the old pitch dampening settings... It's like a deja vu from 2020 or so. It was good while it lasted. I fear the worst for the FF MiG-29A. 1./JG71 "Richthofen" - Seven Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuva Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 My fear is finding out how many things are wrong with the FC3 29 when the FF comes, specially the flight model. I imagine they will update the flight model of the older one, just like they did with the A-10A, to be a copy of the new one. But I wonder if ED will be upfront with this or just stealthly make the change afraid it could affect the quality perception of the other FC3 modules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Skuva said: …ED will be…afraid it could affect the quality perception of the other FC3 modules. The majority of the community already believes FC3 modules are of lesser quality. So what difference would it make? They’ll make whatever changes they feel are necessary. They’ve already stated that they have no interest in make any module 100% accurate. 2 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuva Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ironhand said: The majority of the community already believes FC3 modules are of lesser quality. So what difference would it make? They’ll make whatever changes they feel are necessary. They’ve already stated that they have no interest in make any module 100% accurate. The general belief is that FC3 have simplified systems, but the flight model is on par with the FF modules, given ED's own words on the subject and their PFM sticker stamped on all but the Su-25A/T. The thing is the Mig-29 is the one FC3 aircraft with the most recently updated FM, and still has weird stuff going on (eg. flight perf far from matching data, Autopilot problems). If the FF release end up making these problem more evident, we can start questioning what about the other ones? F-15C and Su-27? Are they in an even worse situation? Do they realy deserve their PFM stickers? Edited January 15 by Skuva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 In my experience talking with community members with no FC3 experience, the majority also have the impression the the FM is simplified as well. Perhaps your experience is different and we can agree to disagree. At any rate, rather than worrying about this from now. Why don’t we wait and see what happens over the next few years. ED will do what ED will do. 2 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 15 ED Team Share Posted January 15 FC3 MiG-29 has a Professional Flight Model (PFM) and Standard Systems Modeling (SSM) Details of terms can be found here https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/faq/general/#1512209 thank you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The milion dollar question is, does ED consider SAU system part of Flight Model or Systems Modelling. 2 Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 13 hours ago, Volator said: As of 2.9 something, MiG-29 feels again like ED has moved back to the old pitch dampening settings... It's like a deja vu from 2020 or so. It was good while it lasted. I fear the worst for the FF MiG-29A. My impression and everything I have read from other users is that dampening is much more aggressive in MiG-29 after 2.9…. Along with ground effect for example now making landings and PIO much easier to handle. You are the first person I’ve seen to say the opposite 2 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 On 1/15/2024 at 10:37 AM, some1 said: The milion dollar question is, does ED consider SAU system part of Flight Model or Systems Modelling. They consider it part of the PFM. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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