RacoonE69 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Given that there have been changes from 2.7, I ask you what changes have been with respect to the previous procedure: Once a target is locked. 1. TDC Fwd (IRMV) is pressed 2. Press cage / uncage 3. Press TDC Down (repeatedly, until you lock) It currently did the above, but failed to get the Mav to lock Help is appreciated. Greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) Fired a couple of IRMAV last night (TDC Action/No Action enabled in Special Settings) , but identified/locked the target with the DMT, I know, not the same thing but the procedure was exactly as you described... I don't think it would be different with the TPOD Edited April 22, 2021 by Draken35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacoonE69 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 hace 42 minutos, Draken35 dijo: Fired a couple of IRMAV last night (TDC Action/No Action enabled in Special Settings) , but identified/locked the target with the DMT, I know, not the same thing but the procedure was exactly as you described... I don't think it would be different with the TPOD I have also been able to shoot the maverick directly, but going from the targets detected by the TPOD to being blocked by the mav, I have not succeeded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, RacoonE69 said: I have also been able to shoot the maverick directly, but going from the targets detected by the TPOD to being blocked by the mav, I have not succeeded You got me curious so just did a quick test. Fired 2 IRMAV using the tpod with TDC Action/No Action ... Same process as before, no issues... The only difference (and I didn't think about it in my prior post) between using DMT and TPOD is that if you are using the TPOD, you have to take it out of HOTAS mode (SSS Depress twice) before SSS Forward to box the IRMV in the HUD... (I just noticed that toy said TDC Fwd in your step 1, btw) So: 1. Identify & track you target with the TPOD 2. SSS Depress twice (since you will most likely be in HOTAS mode) 3. SSS Fwd 4. Cage/Uncage (LEFT MCPD must be on the stores page) IRMV Seeker will be slaved to TPOD at this point 5. TDC down as necessary until IRMV lock Hope this helps! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacoonE69 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 hace 30 minutos, Draken35 dijo: You got me curious so just did a quick test. Fired 2 IRMAV using the tpod with TDC Action/No Action ... Same process as before, no issues... The only difference (and I didn't think about it in my prior post) between using DMT and TPOD is that if you are using the TPOD, you have to take it out of HOTAS mode (SSS Depress twice) before SSS Forward to box the IRMV in the HUD... (I just noticed that toy said TDC Fwd in your step 1, btw) So: 1. Identify & track you target with the TPOD 2. SSS Depress twice (since you will most likely be in HOTAS mode) 3. SSS Fwd 4. Cage/Uncage (LEFT MCPD must be on the stores page) IRMV Seeker will be slaved to TPOD at this point 5. TDC down as necessary until IRMV lock Hope this helps! Thanks for helping. Do you have the TDC Action / No Action enabled from the Options? It's something I don't have. The rest I think we do the same. I will keep trying. Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I do, but I don't think it is a factor in this scenario. The "switchology" of the TPOD/IRMV was the one that gave me more grief too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacoonE69 Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 hace 2 horas, Draken35 dijo: I do, but I don't think it is a factor in this scenario. The "switchology" of the TPOD/IRMV was the one that gave me more grief too.. ok. Thanks Greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastRifleRound Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Note that you're going to get a bit of a curveball with a moving target. I reported it in bugs though truly it may not be, but as soon as you leave TPOD HOTAS the TPOD will revert to INR. This is fine for a stationary target, but if you had a PTRK going, the second you SSS down twice, the reticle will fall behind a moving target. When you SSS forward to take control of your IRMV, you may have to reposition the mav to re-obtain the target, which can be be pretty tricky with they way the Harrier handles direct Maverick control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleSimon Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) I'm having similer trouble. Once I've locked a targert with the TPOD and handover to the IRMV, if I slew the maverick at all, I can't seem to slave it back to the TPOD. I would've thought selecting the TPOD again as the SOI would reset the maverick and slave back to the TPOD. I'm confussed. Edited April 24, 2021 by SimpleSimon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAF-Falcon87 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 " On 4/23/2021 at 4:07 AM, LastRifleRound said: Note that you're going to get a bit of a curveball with a moving target. I reported it in bugs though truly it may not be, but as soon as you leave TPOD HOTAS the TPOD will revert to INR. This is fine for a stationary target, but if you had a PTRK going, the second you SSS down twice, the reticle will fall behind a moving target. When you SSS forward to take control of your IRMV, you may have to reposition the mav to re-obtain the target, which can be be pretty tricky with they way the Harrier handles direct Maverick control. This is exactly the problem I have been having. I can lock up the target just fine, but once you change out of TPOD HOTAS control, the lock is gone and the TPOD wanders off into Kansas somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobs Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 This video explains very well how to use TPOD + IRMav's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemon1808 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 10:07 AM, LastRifleRound said: Note that you're going to get a bit of a curveball with a moving target. I reported it in bugs though truly it may not be, but as soon as you leave TPOD HOTAS the TPOD will revert to INR. This is fine for a stationary target, but if you had a PTRK going, the second you SSS down twice, the reticle will fall behind a moving target. When you SSS forward to take control of your IRMV, you may have to reposition the mav to re-obtain the target, which can be be pretty tricky with they way the Harrier handles direct Maverick control. In fact what I have seen is that the TPOD in PT mode is following the target automatically, but the "slaved" maverick is not. As soon as you move the TPOD to lose the target, the maverick starts to follow the TPOD again, until you reacquire the target. The TPOD follows it automatically again, but the maverick frozes in the last TPOD position where it reacquired the target O_O 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastRifleRound Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Did you hit uncage while still in TPOD HOTAS mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemon1808 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 15 hours ago, LastRifleRound said: Did you hit uncage while still in TPOD HOTAS mode? Yes of course. If you don't uncage the mav, you don't even get image from the MAV seeker head in the MFD. 1. set HOTAS mode. TPOD is "master" 2. set PT mode 3. slew TPOD to the target 4. TPOD acquires the target and follows it 5. Uncage mav. MAV seeker head is static on the position where the target was adquired. It doesn't follow the target/TPOD 6. move the TPOD to release target. MAV seeker jumps, magically, to the position of the TPOD 7. Slew TPOD to the target. Maverick seeker head follows TPOD 8. TPOD adquires the target and follows it. MAV seeker head freezes on the position where the target was re-acquired etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastRifleRound Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 17 hours ago, daemon1808 said: Yes of course. If you don't uncage the mav, you don't even get image from the MAV seeker head in the MFD. 1. set HOTAS mode. TPOD is "master" 2. set PT mode 3. slew TPOD to the target 4. TPOD acquires the target and follows it 5. Uncage mav. MAV seeker head is static on the position where the target was adquired. It doesn't follow the target/TPOD 6. move the TPOD to release target. MAV seeker jumps, magically, to the position of the TPOD 7. Slew TPOD to the target. Maverick seeker head follows TPOD 8. TPOD adquires the target and follows it. MAV seeker head freezes on the position where the target was re-acquired etc... Got crossed up with the Hornet, you're right, MAV video won't come up in the Harrier unless you've uncaged. I'll test this out but if I recall I was getting tracking on the MAV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mivina Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Is there any heads up regarding this from someone knowledgeable? It's literally impossible to slave mav to tpod or dmt after you move it and it goes into ground stabilisation. The only way is to shoot it and switch to the next one. Is there a new correct way to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetman_ Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) If you move IRMAV sensor once uncaged it wil unslave from other sensors, it seems that you have to press DESG to undesignate on HSD - it will re-set the sensor to the center and slave it again. Not sure if this is how it supposed to work IRL. Edited December 7, 2021 by hetman_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EconomicSacks Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 DCS 2.7.15 openbeta, you must use the DMT because it will kick the TPOD off of the MFD and replace with the IRMAV seeker head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, EconomicSacks said: DCS 2.7.15 openbeta, you must use the DMT because it will kick the TPOD off of the MFD and replace with the IRMAV seeker head Nope, using the TPOD to ID and designate targets when armed with IRMAV is still a viable strategy. This thread/post explains the basics https://forum.dcs.world/topic/263292-trouble-with-irmav/?do=findComment&comment=4910059 While this video covers a more advance method using TPOD TOO target points to ripple fire 4x IRMAV's in a single pass. However it should be noted that, doing so is somewhat of an anachronism as, by the time the TPOD could be mounted on the center line (2012?), the USMC had stopped using IRMAV's and switched to exclusively using LMAV's i.e. using the DMT with IRMAV's is a better "historic" match. Edited July 6, 2022 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.7GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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