reported MFDs are difficult to read in mid day conditions.

[XCNuse]

Well remember, 2.2 is default (mine has been set to 2.1 since the 2.0 days)

Also that Gamma is more about contrast than actual light/dark, and by having such a low gamma, you're decreasing all midtones down into very dark colors (which would be those entire displays).

 

From those pictures though, the sky looks equally as bright, the ground loses some contrast, but I'm definitely not seeing whatever it is you are. It's entirely possible your monitor is brighter than it should be or you have something else going on.

 

But gamma... is not... a brightness slider, and it is not linear.

 

This is what I mean by telling you two that having gamma in the wrong place is 100% the culprit.

If the game is too bright or looks wrong, adjust your monitor, NOT the game's gamma, if you are doing that, then it entirely means your monitor is out of spec and either too bright or too low contrast or whatever; but the fact remains... gamma is once again, NOT supposed to be used for increasing / decreasing your brightness.

 

Gamma is logarithmic, and shifts all midtones to be much darker, or much brighter than they should be.

 

Gamma does NOT increase nor decrease pure whites, or pure blacks.

 

Hence why in those two photos you just shared, nothing looks blown out, the clouds look virtually the same.

Edited April 26, 2021 by XCNuse

[Furiz]

The outside world is too bright in relation to the cockpit, those 2 instances need to be evened out. I know gamma is not brightness, it affects the shades of gray, but if you increase it the image (grays in the image) appears to be brighter same as if you decrease it the image goes darker.

 

I have all other games and stuff perfectly right with colors and gamma, monitor brightness etc, I didn't need to set up anything for those games, only DCS that needs tweaking so I assume its DCS then that needs tweaking right?

[Alpiinoo]

Yes unreadable.

[HayMak3r]

Can confirm. mfd's are WAY harder to read after the 2.7 patch. I also upgraded my pc, which forced a format, reinstall of windows, and DCS. This happened pre upgrade with 2.7, and also after with a brand new install. It is very frustrating again. It seems like it has been reverted back to the issues the mfd's had when the viper first released or so.

[Furiz]

Around 11:30 server

 

1.8 gamma

 

This is not ok, I used the brightness knob and no effect.

 

 

 

[Alpiinoo]

@NineLinePlease can you check again? F-18 have this problem too.

 

[Nealius]

This is an issue where "gamification" needs to be applied. In real life the pilot can simply put his hand over the display to read it. In DCS we cannot. 

[Jethro11]

I usually play in VR, but same issue after 2.7 can barely read the mfd’s.

[Geraki]

same problem occured in video here too.... 

The HSD cyrcles and FCR level bar is not visible at all .....

 

 

[mtd2811]

In VR its unplayable if we cant read the mfds


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[Furiz]

Caucasus 14:25 mid day

1.8 gamma

Clicked brt knobs to max

 

[26-J39]

MFD's need to be able to be adjusted a touch brighter, at least just to cater for personal preferences.

 

IRL start up with MFD's coming at near end of vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOeXKWRxaMc  

Edited May 8, 2021 by 26-J39

[falconzx]

Mfd are ok like they are now for me.

[Thunder_]

I think would b good if we have a middle set for start up or full on or full off would b helpful  

As the yellow characters highlights on the buttons selection options 

[USA_Recon]

On 4/22/2021 at 3:05 PM, BIGNEWY said:

please include screenshots / video, your dcs settings and a track replay showing the issue. 

 

thanks

I've sent you multiple screenshots, multiple times

On 4/22/2021 at 4:39 PM, Rhayvn said:

I have changed nothing since the 2.7 patch and had no issues at any time of day prior to this.  Again, all of my group are having the same issues and we  are a mix of hardware, VR/Track IR and settings.  It's based entirely on time of day.

 

I realize my gamma is low, but every other aspect of the sim looks great and this was the setting I found helps the most with visually finding other aircraft.  I have to turn the gamma above 2 in order to read the MFD, which makes everything else in the game look overly bright and washed out.

 

Settings:

 

 

7AM local time.  MFD is easily readable.

 

 

1300 local time.  MFD is barely readable.

 

Gamma turned over 2.  MFD is still a bit hard to read and the rest of the sim looks overly white and not crisp on detail.

 

This is exactly what my entire squadron sees as well

 

1. in VR

2. without VR

3. without MODS

 

TOD  and 2.7 lighting issues - was fine before 2.7

[USA_Recon]

On 4/22/2021 at 4:39 PM, Rhayvn said:

I have changed nothing since the 2.7 patch and had no issues at any time of day prior to this.  Again, all of my group are having the same issues and we  are a mix of hardware, VR/Track IR and settings.  It's based entirely on time of day.

 

I realize my gamma is low, but every other aspect of the sim looks great and this was the setting I found helps the most with visually finding other aircraft.  I have to turn the gamma above 2 in order to read the MFD, which makes everything else in the game look overly bright and washed out.

 

Settings:

 

 

7AM local time.  MFD is easily readable.

 

 

1300 local time.  MFD is barely readable.

 

Gamma turned over 2.  MFD is still a bit hard to read and the rest of the sim looks overly white and not crisp on detail.

 

This is exactly what my entire squadron sees as well

 

1. in VR

2. without VR

3. without MODS

 

TOD  and 2.7 lighting issues - was fine before 2.7

 

edit:  I normally use 1.8 gamma, in these TOD like shown above, I have to turn it to gamma 3 just to see the red datalink contacts on SA and radar mfd's

Edited May 10, 2021 by USA_Recon

[deadpool]

HUD projection in front of the new clouds is also kind of the same deal in VR at the moment.

[USA_Recon]

Example .miz - sun, and TOD - the red datalink is very dim and difficult to see no matter how much I brighten the MFD.

VAF_TestMFG.miz

[deadpool]

duplicate report of by the looks of it

 

[USA_Recon]

On 5/23/2021 at 9:48 PM, deadpool said:

duplicate report of by the looks of it

 

Waiting for it to be acknowledged by the devs

[BIGNEWY]

We have reported the MFD brightness to the team for improvement.

 

thanks