AstonMartinDBS Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, Habeas said: just update these to show both the DMS and Decimal Degrees for each airfield et voila! [Modules] A-10C, A-10C II, AH-64D, F-14A/B, F-16C, F/A-18C, FC3, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, CA, SC [Maps] PG, NTTR, Normandy, Sinai, Syria, TC [OS] Windows 11 Pro [PC] MSI Pro Z790-A, i9-13900K, 64 GB DDR5-5200, RTX 4090 24 GB GDDR6X, 2 x SSD 990 PRO 2 TB (M.2), Corsair 5000D Airflow, HX1500i, H150i RGB Elite, Acer X28, TM HOTAS Warthog (Grip@WarBRD Base), MS SW FFB2, Thrustmaster TFRP, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro [Checklists] A-10C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D, Ka-50, UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Habeas said: I would say rather than make 2 versions, just update these to show both the DMS and Decimal Degrees for each airfield et voila! Or, if you haven't got time, post the original files (Affinity Designer, Adobe Illustrator) and someone else could do it. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Habeas said: I would say rather than make 2 versions, just update these to show both the DMS and Decimal Degrees for each airfield et voila! Thanks mate! Sadly, it won't be possible to squeeze both coordinate systems into one page. Not enough space. Edited January 2, 2022 by Minsky Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Would you be happy to post the editable files? Quite understand if you’re not. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 What about putting the seconds only decimal version in brackets? So, for example, Batumi would read N41 36’34”(.567) E41 36’01”(.017). (Sorry, can’t do the degree symbol on my iPad.) There is room for that. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartinDBS Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, imacken said: What about putting the seconds only decimal version in brackets? That's a great idea! [Modules] A-10C, A-10C II, AH-64D, F-14A/B, F-16C, F/A-18C, FC3, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, CA, SC [Maps] PG, NTTR, Normandy, Sinai, Syria, TC [OS] Windows 11 Pro [PC] MSI Pro Z790-A, i9-13900K, 64 GB DDR5-5200, RTX 4090 24 GB GDDR6X, 2 x SSD 990 PRO 2 TB (M.2), Corsair 5000D Airflow, HX1500i, H150i RGB Elite, Acer X28, TM HOTAS Warthog (Grip@WarBRD Base), MS SW FFB2, Thrustmaster TFRP, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro [Checklists] A-10C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D, Ka-50, UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, imacken said: What about putting the seconds only decimal version in brackets? You have to believe me when I'm saying there's no room for more data. And I can't just shrink this text or move that thing without degrading the readability and uniformity even further. Having both coordinates would be nice, that's for certain. Having MGRS would be nice as well - despite there is no aircraft that rely on this system exclusively. On one hand we have a couple dozen Viper drivers asking for the Decimals. On another hand we have nobody telling us they're constantly using the current format Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 To me, it looks like the Tacan box could be reduced. Also, personally, I am not sure of the usefulness of the column that has a graphic in it. Sorry to ask again, but are you prepared to post the original editable files? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, imacken said: To me, it looks like the Tacan box could be reduced. That won't be enough, I'm afraid. And I don't want people using magnifying glass to read the kneeboards. 51 minutes ago, imacken said: Also, personally, I am not sure of the usefulness of the column that has a graphic in it. My spatial thinking sucks, so it helps me to correlate the numbers (05L-23R) with the actual runway and visualize my position in relation to it (if that makes any sense). 52 minutes ago, imacken said: are you prepared to post the original editable files? I'm still looking for a way to relatively painlessly support both formats. Should I decide to drop the Seconds for good, I'll post the sources. Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Minsky said: My spatial thinking sucks, so it helps me to correlate the numbers (05L-23R) with the actual runway and visualize my position in relation to it (if that makes any sense). I was meaning the column next to the Elevation, not the end runway orientation one. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, imacken said: I was meaning the column next to the Elevation, not the end runway orientation one. It gives you a rough location of that aerodrome, and also allows to quickly find it on the Lite map. Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I get what it does, but I wonder how many people actually use it. Also, I’m sure most DCS pilots can visualise a direction angle quite easily, so probably the end column isn’t used much either. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 One "issue" with having two (or more) sets is when you have multiple flyable airplanes that use different coordinates systems in the same mission: we would either add all the sets or add the kneeboards to the planes, which would be a pain since you will have to add all the maps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 We're talking about having 2 sets on the one sheet. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 Looks messy, and I'm not sure it would be possible to apply this to every kneeboard, but it has potential. 3 Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I think that looks good. You could save a couple of character spaces by removing the two ' after the decimals. They are redundant. For example, Abu Dhabi ...../.222' ....../.255' can be just .../.222..../.255 Nice job! 1 Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 Viper & Warthog drivers, rejoice! The new version is up: Quote 07 January 2022 - All kneeboards: introducing the new hybrid coordinate format that suits every DCS module. Thanks to imacken for this idea. - Caucasus: added three unmarked aerodromes near Kutaisi and Kobuleti. Download 5 Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Perfect! Thank you. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartinDBS Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 10 hours ago, Minsky said: Viper & Warthog drivers, rejoice! The new version is up Thank you for the idea @imacken! Great job @Minsky!!! [Modules] A-10C, A-10C II, AH-64D, F-14A/B, F-16C, F/A-18C, FC3, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H, CA, SC [Maps] PG, NTTR, Normandy, Sinai, Syria, TC [OS] Windows 11 Pro [PC] MSI Pro Z790-A, i9-13900K, 64 GB DDR5-5200, RTX 4090 24 GB GDDR6X, 2 x SSD 990 PRO 2 TB (M.2), Corsair 5000D Airflow, HX1500i, H150i RGB Elite, Acer X28, TM HOTAS Warthog (Grip@WarBRD Base), MS SW FFB2, Thrustmaster TFRP, TrackIR 5 & TrackClip Pro [Checklists] A-10C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AH-64D, Ka-50, UH-1H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyjax Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Thanks Minsky for doing the leg work. Question, where do you get this information? Before, if you clicked on the airport all relevant information would come up, now it's just the freq's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Heyjax said: Question, where do you get this information? Before, if you clicked on the airport all relevant information would come up, now it's just the freq's. It's still there on the in-game (F10) plates. Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Edited February 5, 2022 by Minsky 2 2 Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolln Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Awesome work! You don't happen to have the frequency lists available as an excel sheet at all? Looking for a way to keep track of mission/theater frequencies and having this list in excel format would be a great way to reference as well as create lua tables to use in mission. Thanks for any info. Edited February 1, 2022 by Rolln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, Rolln said: You don't happen to have the frequency lists available as an excel sheet at all? I have a simple text file (attached). Most of the data I update directly in PSDs. dcs-atc-freqs.txt Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsky Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) The work continues Edited February 5, 2022 by Minsky 1 3 Dima | My DCS uploads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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