captain_dalan Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Just watched this video on YouTube: And there comes a point where here breaks down the second incident step by step. He mentions that firing a 2nd sparrow trashes the first one. But he never explains why it is so. Anyone has any ideas? 2 Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhntissbaby111 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I’m just spitballing here, so I’m sure I’ll be corrected. But maybe the AWG-9 could only communicate to one missile at a time? Anyone try this in DCS, does the first Sparrow go dumb when a second one is launched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, uhntissbaby111 said: I’m just spitballing here, so I’m sure I’ll be corrected. But maybe the AWG-9 could only communicate to one missile at a time? Anyone try this in DCS, does the first Sparrow go dumb when a second one is launched? I generally wait for the first to get trashed before i try a second one, so i can't tell. As for the first part, i have no idea. SARH missiles guide on radar reflections right? Does the radar transmit anything else in the illumination pulse? Some data package? Even in pulse mode? If so, then perhaps you are right. Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tau Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Whatever it is, it doesnt seem to be implemented in DCS. Multiple sparrows can guide on PSTT simultaneously 1 Tau's Youtube channel Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/the0tau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Interesting. I'll try the same in PD-STT tonight, if i get to fly that is.... Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prez Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 5 hours ago, captain_dalan said: Interesting. I'll try the same in PD-STT tonight, if i get to fly that is.... It’s not implemented at all regardless of radar modes. As far as I am aware of the behavior of the sparrow, the effect of one missile launch trashing the previous one would only happen for a Pulse Doppler-STT due to the way the AWG-9 operates and communicates with the sparrow missile. If you’ve ever been in the back seat then you would notice the Missile Channel and Transmit Channel dials in the top right of the DDD Panel. That was for PD launches of sparrows(and possibly even A variant phoenixes) because unlike in Pulse, Pulse Doppler requires a special code that the radar emits during a PD launch. If you want to know how this works then think about the Tomcat’s ability to launch 6 phoenixes simultaneously on different targets. In order for it to do that without missiles mixing up their targets, each one is given a specific code for its radar track information. TWS is done in PD and so therefore the same functionality carries over to PD-STT launches for both sparrows and phoenixes. 4 4 Heavy Fighter Elitist AIM-120 Best Missiletm AWG-9 Gaslighter Diagnosed with terminal Skill Issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1tch Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/9/2021 at 4:40 AM, Prez said: If you want to know how this works then think about the Tomcat’s ability to launch 6 phoenixes simultaneously on different targets. In order for it to do that without missiles mixing up their targets, each one is given a specific code for its radar track information. TWS is done in PD and so therefore the same functionality carries over to PD-STT launches for both sparrows and phoenixes. Great explanation. Thanks Prez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9thHunt Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 one would think that because the missile has 6 phoenix channels it would be able to handle 2 sparrows, but I guess it is an older missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Tau Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 10 hours ago, 9thHunt said: one would think that because the missile has 6 phoenix channels it would be able to handle 2 sparrows, but I guess it is an older missile. Hmm its STT lock and radar is focusing its all power on one point so I see why it wouldn't work Tau's Youtube channel Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/the0tau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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