Q3ark Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Hi guys, I was wondering if the F-16 MIDS has a voice channel like the F/A-18 MIDS does, and if so how do you transmit over it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crptalk Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 This question was asked last year with some speculation that it should have MIDS voice but never got an answer from ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence201 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Crptalk said: This question was asked last year with some speculation that it should have MIDS voice but never got an answer from ED. Yeah, I asked but received no reply/feedback. BLUF, depends on the MIDS terminal [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q3ark Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 Thanks gents, I thought I was going stupid not being able to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceMonkey037 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Q3ark said: Hi guys, I was wondering if the F-16 MIDS has a voice channel like the F/A-18 MIDS does, and if so how do you transmit over it? our MIDS radio is unable to transmit voice. The radio is only capable of transmitting data. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpool Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Just for confirmation. That will stay the say the same even with us getting the AN/PRC-210 that the hornet's use? Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlarSnow Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 MIDS voice has nothing to do with the ARC-210, separate systems completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) What are the capabilities of a MIDS comunication? for example range or LOS. Is it normaly used in combat or its more like a backup system? I know its encrypted. I guess its a digital signal instead of analog. Edited May 30, 2021 by Ignition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlarSnow Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) MIDS voice and range is exactly the same limitations as MIDS itself. If you are in the link and somebody else is in the same link, and you both have MIDS Voice capabilities, you can talk to each other. It's basically VOIP, instead of a straight up radio system. If you and the listener are in the same MIDS network, you will be able to talk. It is used as a secure radio or a 3rd or 4th radio by Hornets and Superhornets all the time assuming they are in the link. Not unusual or special at all. Edited May 30, 2021 by KlarSnow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpool Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 3 hours ago, KlarSnow said: MIDS voice has nothing to do with the ARC-210, separate systems completely Roger. Thanks for the feedback. Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulkbust44 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Yeah, I asked but received no reply/feedback. BLUF, depends on the MIDS terminalWouldn't be able to transmit voice, just SPI broadcasts. A/A and A/G TXDSG positions on the throttle take over what could've been MIDS comm a and b.Mobius708 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananabrai Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 MIDS was not really designed to transmit voice, it can provoce different problems in the network. As far as I know it is not used in RL and you'll get problems in the debriefing of large exercises if you used it. It goes as far as f***ing the network for all other clients. Alias in Discord: Mailman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusC42B Pilot Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Yes it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llOPPOTATOll Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Yes it doesDo you have a source, i’m 95% sure it doesn’t do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlarSnow Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 MIDS works just fine for transmitting voice, works like VOIP or any of your internet phones... its specifically built into the network to have this capability. Only some platforms have implemented it though. its one of the core features of MIDS even listed in a brief Wikipedia search https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multifunctional_Information_Distribution_System J-voice, JTRS, Software Defined Radio etc... does not impact any other part of the network if designed to use it. The F-16 as used by the USAF does not have and should not in DCS have this functionality. It is and should be on the DCS Hornet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusC42B Pilot Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, llOPPOTATOll said: Do you have a source, i’m 95% sure it doesn’t do that. Besides my 2004 manual that describes the integration of mids youre one google search away to see that block 50 m4.2 had mids Edited June 1, 2021 by IkarusC42B Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpool Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) And we definitely have M4.2 of not M5.2 But I think the question was not if we have / get MIDS or not .. but if we get Voice capability over MIDS .. which we won't. Edited June 1, 2021 by deadpool Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llOPPOTATOll Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 6 hours ago, IkarusC42B Pilot said: Besides my 2004 manual that describes the integration of mids youre one google search away to see that block 50 m4.2 had mids The question isnt does it have MIDS, which it obviously does. My question was asking for your source saying it had MIDS VOICE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florence201 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, llOPPOTATOll said: The question isnt does it have MIDS, which it obviously does. My question was asking for your source saying it had MIDS VOICE. All searching I’ve done says Blk 50 has a MIDS LVT blk1 which DOES NOT have voice capability later terminals incorporated JVox ability [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusC42B Pilot Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 hours ago, llOPPOTATOll said: The question isnt does it have MIDS, which it obviously does. My question was asking for your source saying it had MIDS VOICE. Yes it was the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llOPPOTATOll Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 51 minutes ago, Florence201 said: All searching I’ve done says Blk 50 has a MIDS LVT blk1 which DOES NOT have voice capability later terminals incorporated JVox ability Exactly what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusC42B Pilot Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Yeah f16 recived block 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llOPPOTATOll Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, IkarusC42B Pilot said: Yeah f16 recived block 1 If you take a look at this website it also says that its Block 1 "MIDS-LVT(1) — fielded on F-16, F/18-E/F, U-2, MH-60, UCAV, C-130, F/A-50, P-3, B-2, shipboard." MIDS-LVT(6) does NOT have voice capability according to this. Edited June 2, 2021 by llOPPOTATOll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusC42B Pilot Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, llOPPOTATOll said: If you take a look at this website it also says that its Block 1 "MIDS-LVT(1) — fielded on F-16, F/18-E/F, U-2, MH-60, UCAV, C-130, F/A-50, P-3, B-2, shipboard." MIDS-LVT(6) does NOT have voice capability according to this. It also says it has open architecture. Meaning it can be added. And misread the voice thing and tought everyone said it dosent have mids....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llOPPOTATOll Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 If you can find me a source saying that the USAF F-16Cs have MIDS voice that would be spectacular, but until then its irrelevant if its open architecture or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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