MARLAN_ Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) 38K, Loft up 15 degrees, fire on jamming F-14, 100% of the time the missile goes into space, despite having a solid STT lock the entire time. Track also includes bug with MEM where locking a bandit turns into MEM mode EVERY time and refuses to lock what should be an easy lock. Reproducible every time. (Designate L&S, SCS Right for AACQ, enter MEM mode, broken box appears in timbucktoo, will not lock) Edit: Tested again without lofting the missile (ASE Centered) still does the same thing. (Would share track but DCS crashed at the end) bugsgalore.trkTacview-20210530-020129-DCS-f14test.zip.acmi Tacview-20210530-014822-DCS-f14test.zip.acmi Edited May 30, 2021 by MARLAN_ Virtual CVW-8 - The mission of Virtual Carrier Air Wing EIGHT is to provide its members with an organization committed to presenting an authentic representation of U.S. Navy Carrier Air Wing operations in training and combat environments based on the real world experience of its real fighter pilots, air intercept controllers, airbosses, and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csgo GE oh yeah Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 To me this only happens if the little dot is not in the circle when i fire. Which makes sense because you're firing outside of launch parameters. Stop adding 'extra' loft and your missiles will probably do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 To me this only happens if the little dot is not in the circle when i fire. Which makes sense because you're firing outside of launch parameters. Stop adding 'extra' loft and your missiles will probably do better. The steering dot is there to guarantee optimal kinetimatics at launch, it has nothing to do the with guidance of a missile equipped with an INU. Guidance might be not optimal, but the missile will not go stupid. This is probably related to the AMRAAM's interaction with ECM. 1 1 The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARLAN_ Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Csgo GE oh yeah said: To me this only happens if the little dot is not in the circle when i fire. Which makes sense because you're firing outside of launch parameters. Stop adding 'extra' loft and your missiles will probably do better. If you read my whole post, I tested without lofting and it has the same issue. Virtual CVW-8 - The mission of Virtual Carrier Air Wing EIGHT is to provide its members with an organization committed to presenting an authentic representation of U.S. Navy Carrier Air Wing operations in training and combat environments based on the real world experience of its real fighter pilots, air intercept controllers, airbosses, and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Csgo GE oh yeah said: To me this only happens if the little dot is not in the circle when i fire. Which makes sense because you're firing outside of launch parameters. Stop adding 'extra' loft and your missiles will probably do better. No. You, in fact, are supposed to pitch up to loft AMRAAMs at longer ranges IRL. Its the DCS steering cue thats wrong. 3 Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARLAN_ Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 @BIGNEWY Virtual CVW-8 - The mission of Virtual Carrier Air Wing EIGHT is to provide its members with an organization committed to presenting an authentic representation of U.S. Navy Carrier Air Wing operations in training and combat environments based on the real world experience of its real fighter pilots, air intercept controllers, airbosses, and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 If the ASE aiming is done perfectly then the missile doesn't maneuver upon launch. Turning costs energy which is the purpose of the aiming before firing. The missile is going to do what it has to no matter if it was inside or outside parameters on launch. It doesn't just give up regardless and being barely being outside parameters doesn't mean a miss it means less than normal endgame maneuver potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csgo GE oh yeah Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) Hmm i see. Ok. For me though, it only happens if i do both of these two things: - Fire from way outside 'max' launch distance (so way before the circle starts to widen) and also: - Pitch nose up for 'extra loft'. If i do both these things at the same time there's a pretty big chance the missile will go stupid. The missile normally lofts on it's own, maybe by adding extra angle and also being outside of range something breaks in the guidance or something ? Edited May 31, 2021 by Csgo GE oh yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Hmm i see. Ok. For me though, it only happens if i do both of these two things: - Fire from way outside 'max' launch distance (so way before the circle starts to widen) and also: - Pitch nose up for 'extra loft'. If i do both these things at the same time there's a pretty big chance the missile will go stupid. The missile normally lofts on it's own, maybe by adding extra angle and also being outside of range something breaks in the guidance or something ? If you're firing from too far away, keep in mind that the AMRAAM has a battery life of 80 seconds. It's possible it's running out during the loft maneuver and then the missile naturally goes ballistic. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 My experience is that if you loose the track in TWS or your jammer goes active, the AIM-120 goes ballistic. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARLAN_ Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) If y'all would watch the .trk or tacview, the missile does not go ballistic, it goes INTO SPACE, directly up,. Edited June 2, 2021 by MARLAN_ Virtual CVW-8 - The mission of Virtual Carrier Air Wing EIGHT is to provide its members with an organization committed to presenting an authentic representation of U.S. Navy Carrier Air Wing operations in training and combat environments based on the real world experience of its real fighter pilots, air intercept controllers, airbosses, and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon_120 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 This is clearly a bug, not a user error. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazedPilot Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I get this too, whenever I launch an AMRAAM in MP, the first thing it does when it comes off the rail is to pitch up roughly 45 degrees, and only when it reaches 90,000 feet it starts to track the target. I have a lock, I'm within range, and not using any loft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalan Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 12:27 AM, MARLAN_ said: If y'all would watch the .trk or tacview, the missile does not go ballistic, it goes INTO SPACE, directly up,. NCLS... NASA's Cheap Launch System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARLAN_ Posted October 30, 2021 Author Share Posted October 30, 2021 Old post.. I believe this is already fixed Virtual CVW-8 - The mission of Virtual Carrier Air Wing EIGHT is to provide its members with an organization committed to presenting an authentic representation of U.S. Navy Carrier Air Wing operations in training and combat environments based on the real world experience of its real fighter pilots, air intercept controllers, airbosses, and many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmptohocah Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 12:27 AM, MARLAN_ said: If y'all would watch the .trk or tacview, the missile does not go ballistic, it goes INTO SPACE, directly up,. How the hell can a missile climb with a G load of 0.6? Was this recorded in deep space? Cmptohocah=CMPTOHOCAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 The nose is probably dropping. You'd need 260km altitude to experience 0.5g IIRC. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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