eric-b92 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Hey people! anybody else having problems with the trimmer? i cant get it to do anything. i hot started a mission and want to trim the cyclic for takeoff, but it doesnt do anything.. i used the keyboard keybind for it and a hotas shortcut. am i missing something? when i hit trim the cyclic just returns to dead center. did a full dcs repair also added a track in case it turns out to be a bug. hope someone can help me out trimmer.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowsniper Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) it depends if you have a FFB or not. defaut trim in special game menu for Mi24 are for FFB trim ( stick should stay where it is when trimmer used ) but not working as intented so far ( like Mi8 or Huey) If you have no FFB you should use the return to middle option. Edit allright 've got it right now for MSFFB ( checked in flight and with the axes indication ingame Trim Button OK / Trimmer reset OK for MSFFB in defaut mode : trimmer force 45 / shake 80 ( more trim force is not needed swap axis : YES invert X : YES ( not as usual ) invert Y YES ( not as usual ) defaut trim nose up nose down wing left down and wing right down are also ALL INVERTED ( not as usual ) : be aware Edited June 17, 2021 by snowsniper 1 i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric-b92 Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 Its on default, but i wil try the different setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowbagger Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I'm not sure that's accurate. I use the default trimmer mode setting with a non-FFB stick and have no issues. CPU:5600X | GPU:RTX2080 | RAM:32GB | Disk:860EVOm.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowbagger Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, eric-b92 said: Hey people! anybody else having problems with the trimmer? i cant get it to do anything. i hot started a mission and want to trim the cyclic for takeoff, but it doesnt do anything.. i used the keyboard keybind for it and a hotas shortcut. am i missing something? when i hit trim the cyclic just returns to dead center. did a full dcs repair also added a track in case it turns out to be a bug. hope someone can help me out trimmer.trk 280.45 kB · 1 download I tried your track and when I take control it works without issue. Check your control settings for trimmer button and also trimmer - reset. Also make sure you're not in Game Mode, please. CPU:5600X | GPU:RTX2080 | RAM:32GB | Disk:860EVOm.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric-b92 Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 No not in game mode. Even used the keyboard binds. Its so weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution wowbagger Posted June 17, 2021 Solution Share Posted June 17, 2021 Ya, that's a tough one. Can you try clearing the trimmer button and trimmer-reset bindings and then binding them to different keys and different buttons to see if there is a conflict with something else, in the UI layer maybe? CPU:5600X | GPU:RTX2080 | RAM:32GB | Disk:860EVOm.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowsniper Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 eric-b92 : what is your joystick ? 1 i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric-b92 Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 Warthog hotas, i wil try to rebind everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowsniper Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 also see in the quick manual page 28 : for non FFB stick 1 i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric-b92 Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 Wil look again tommorrow. Enough fidling with this for now. Hope rebinding it all does the trick. Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) got a msffb 2 and when i press trim and then release my stick my helo goes all over the place... so how exactly should this work? got the settings on default. when i press trim my ffb is gone and when i trim for steady flight i release both stick and pedals and it goes to sheits Edited June 18, 2021 by rogonaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric-b92 Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 I think in the options tab you should set trimmer to ffb in stead of default. I read somewhere that the ffb axis act inverted right now. So you probably also need to invert them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostCZ Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) Make sure your pitch/roll is NOT bound on another device at the same time. It will otherwise make conflicts like this issue. Edited June 18, 2021 by FrostCZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, eric-b92 said: I think in the options tab you should set trimmer to ffb in stead of default. I read somewhere that the ffb axis act inverted right now. So you probably also need to invert them theres only one other option and it says "for joysticks without springs and ffb". so that shouldnt be the correct one cause i would read it as without ffb... in a post above it says default is for ffb joystick. do u mean the special options tab for the mi24 right? 21 minutes ago, FrostCZ said: Make sure your pitch/roll is NOT bound on another device at the same time. It will otherwise make conflicts like this issue. i have to check on that again, maybe i overlooked something when i release trim it recenters my ffb joystick and doesnt stay where i trimmed it at. Edited June 18, 2021 by rogonaut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, rogonaut said: theres only one other option and it says "for joysticks without springs and ffb". so that shouldnt be the correct one cause i would read it as without ffb... in a post above it says default is for ffb joystick. do u mean the special options tab for the mi24 right? i have to check on that again, maybe i overlooked something when i release trim it recenters my ffb joystick and doesnt stay where i trimmed it at. I'm MMSFB2 user: When in Mi24p Sim Axis controls\settings, click on any axis of your bound axis (X, or Y it doesnt matter). Just one left click, so it's highlighted, then click FFB Tune. In the next window that opens, check ALL THREE BOXES. I don't remember exactly what they are called, I think Swap Axes, Invert X, Invert Y or something, all three should be ticked. At that point your FFB will work correctly in the Hind. Edited June 18, 2021 by Lurker 1 Specs: Win10, i5-13600KF, 32GB DDR4 RAM 3200XMP, 1 TB M2 NVMe SSD, KFA2 RTX3090, VR G2 Headset, Warthog Throttle+Saitek Pedals+MSFFB2 Joystick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric-b92 Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 Wel thanks guys, resetting everything (including keyboard standard binds) finaly fixed it. Dont know what whas wrong, but hey if it works it works holding a hover is much easyer now haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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