Easier way to enter manual waypoints

[Viciam1]

Hi guys,

 

Is there an easier way to enter waypoints manually into the f16 in multiplayer servers rather than going into the f10 map, writing the coordinates down on paper then typing them into the f16? Its so tedious to do it manually especially in VR. Can anyone help please?

Thank you

 

[=52d= Skip]

14 minutes ago, Viciam1 said:

Hi guys,

 

Is there an easier way to enter waypoints manually into the f16 in multiplayer servers rather than going into the f10 map, writing the coordinates down on paper then typing them into the f16? Its so tedious to do it manually especially in VR. Can anyone help please?

Thank you

 

 

Have not tried this myself, but it may be what you are looking for:

 

 

[Viciam1]

Thank you this looks interesting. I wonder if it works in VR?

[bmbpdk]

Fun fact: When the RDAF (Royal Danish Air Force) received their first F-16A´s, every coordinate had to entered by hand on the ICP, including every FREQ to every channel, every TACAN, every ILS and so forth.
With the F-16AM they have a data cartridge making that job much much easier.

Source: The book "F-16, på vingerne med danske jagerpiloter" ISBN 9788711917855

Personally i dont mind having to manually enter coordinates, i have always admired maps, compas and the coordinates system (Primarily the MGRS system).

[TobiasA]

Besides the other tips: Map the keypad of your keyboard with a modifier to the ICP.

Mine is CTRL + keypad numbers and enter, I am pretty fast now. I have no idea if this is preset, but it is very helpful.

[WHOGX5]

1 hour ago, TobiasA said:

Besides the other tips: Map the keypad of your keyboard with a modifier to the ICP.

Mine is CTRL + keypad numbers and enter, I am pretty fast now. I have no idea if this is preset, but it is very helpful.

This. I've simply bound my numpad and arrows to the ICP controls as I have a HOTAS and TrackIR, so I don't need their initial functionality. If you do this, you can input coordinates while you're in the F10 view. Just learn how to input everything without looking at the DED and you can input your coordinates in a flash, even for multiple steerpoints.

Edited June 19, 2021 by WHOGX5

[=Panther=]

10 hours ago, Viciam1 said:

Thank you this looks interesting. I wonder if it works in VR?

Doesn’t work in VR. He has no way to develop for it as he has no vr hardware. 

[Cupra]

This DTC is really high priority to come... setting up all the stuff before entering the cockpit and then just hitting „load“... wonder why that is not done already. It is one of the most needed functions at every flight. Setting up waypoints, threats, frequencies, EWS programs and all that stuff. 
And as said before, in VR it is really a pain to write anything during flight. 
nice they put in JDAM, but no option to get coordinates from the map into the system in an easy way...

Edited June 20, 2021 by Cupra

[Furiz]

I memorize those 7 numbers, type them in, go back to the f10 memorize another 7 numbers and type them in. then I do altitude to relax my brain;D

[durka-durka]

This is the answer you seek, my friend.  Works perfectly. 

 

Step 1: Bind your num pad to the keys.  Bind your cursor arrows to the dobber.  Bind your cursor arrows w/ modifier (I use right shift) to the button that goes up/down for selecting steerpoints.  

 

Step 2:  Get this scratchpad app.  Works perfectly in VR and is movable.  

GitHub - rkusa/dcs-scratchpad: Resizable and movable DCS World ingame Scratchpad for quick notes - especially useful in VR.

 

 

 

 

[Cepheus76]

16 hours ago, durka-durka said:

 

 

...Step 1: Bind your num pad to the keys.  Bind your cursor arrows to the dobber.  Bind your cursor arrows w/ modifier (I use right shift) to the button that goes up/down for selecting steerpoints...  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What durka-durka says, however, for the up/down arrows, I use the num-pad plus- and minus keys. Also, for the Master Mode selection, I mapped the  keys "1" to "6" on the keyboard to the ICP buttons, so pressing "1" gives ne access to the UHF, "2" to the VHF, you get the drift.

[hasole]

For those using the numpad for the icp do you make 7 8 9 the same as the icp 1 2 3?

 

Finding it really hard to get use to. Might need to try it as printed on the keyboard and remember it is upside down.  

[_SteelFalcon_]

8 minutes ago, hasole said:

For those using the numpad for the icp do you make 7 8 9 the same as the icp 1 2 3?

 

Finding it really hard to get use to. Might need to try it as printed on the keyboard and remember it is upside down.  

If you‘re used to using the numpad (due to work or whatever) i‘d keep it as it is by default and bind the correct ICP numbers on the physical keys. Since you wont be looking at the icp while entering the numbers but rather at the f10 map (for waypoints at least)

 

and you subconsciously press the correct button anyway if you look at your ICP even if the keyboard numpad is „inverted“

Edited June 27, 2021 by _SteelFalcon_

[macedk]

On 6/19/2021 at 3:01 PM, bmbpdk said:

Fun fact: When the RDAF (Royal Danish Air Force) received their first F-16A´s, every coordinate had to entered by hand on the ICP, including every FREQ to every channel, every TACAN, every ILS and so forth.
With the F-16AM they have a data cartridge making that job much much easier.

Source: The book "F-16, på vingerne med danske jagerpiloter" ISBN 9788711917855

Personally i dont mind having to manually enter coordinates, i have always admired maps, compas and the coordinates system (Primarily the MGRS system).

Great book and I asked if they would translate it to English, no plans.

On 6/19/2021 at 1:51 PM, Viciam1 said:

Hi guys,

 

Is there an easier way to enter waypoints manually into the f16 in multiplayer servers rather than going into the f10 map, writing the coordinates down on paper then typing them into the f16? Its so tedious to do it manually especially in VR. Can anyone help please?

Thank you

 

I bet you have a mobile phone. f10 -  take picture and type on icp

[durka-durka]

17 hours ago, hasole said:

For those using the numpad for the icp do you make 7 8 9 the same as the icp 1 2 3?

 

Finding it really hard to get use to. Might need to try it as printed on the keyboard and remember it is upside down.  

 

I tried inverting my numbers so it would look like the ICP, but it just wouldn't work.  So much faster just doing it on the numpad, especially in VR.

[Nealius]

"VR scratchpad" also works in 2D, and there is a button that directly inputs coordinates into the scratchpad. Though you need to do a little lua editing to get it in the right coordinate format for the Viper, and you still have to input them manually into the DED, but it does at least skip over the step of having to physically write them down somewhere.

Edited June 30, 2021 by Nealius

[Harlikwin]

Just reading this thread breaks my heart a lil, but I am impressed at some of the workarounds you guys have found for this. I use VR scratchpad myself. But really a TOP priority for ED needs to be some sort of Data tape/mission planning system.

 

[Dragon1-1]

+1 for binding the ICP keys to the keyboard. I do this for every aircraft with a keypad, it's especially handy in the likes of Mirage 2000. 

[Nealius]

For VR Scratchpad here's the lua line that needs to be changed to get the proper LL format for the Viper (also Warthog and Hornet's precise setting).

 

scratchpad-hook.lua, line 121:

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result = result .. "\n" .. tostringLL(lat, lon, 4, false) .. "\n" .. tostring(alt*3.28) .. "ft, " .. mark.text .. "\n"

 

[hasole]

37 minutes ago, Nealius said:

For VR Scratchpad here's the lua line that needs to be changed to get the proper LL format for the Viper (also Warthog and Hornet's precise setting).

 

scratchpad-hook.lua, line 121:

 

 

This is awesome.  Thank you.

[Harlikwin]

2 hours ago, Nealius said:

For VR Scratchpad here's the lua line that needs to be changed to get the proper LL format for the Viper (also Warthog and Hornet's precise setting).

 

scratchpad-hook.lua, line 121:

 

Wait am I using it wrong, can you copy paste coords or something?

 

[Nealius]

9 minutes ago, Harlikwin said:

Wait am I using it wrong, can you copy paste coords or something?

 

 

Place a marker on the F10 map, open up scratchpad, press the L/L button, voila. By default the output is in DMS (I think) and meters. The line of code I pasted changes the output to DDMM.mmm and feet. I think. It's been a long time since I tweaked it. 

 

I also can't remember what happens if you press L/L with multiple markers, or with labeled markers. I might mess with that and see. 

Edited June 30, 2021 by Nealius

[Harlikwin]

6 minutes ago, Nealius said:

 

Place a marker on the F10 map, open up scratchpad, press the L/L button, voila. By default the output is in DMS (I think) and meters. The line of code I pasted changes the output to DDMM.mmm and feet. I think. It's been a long time since I tweaked it. 

 

I also can't remember what happens if you press L/L with multiple markers, or with labeled markers. I might mess with that and see. 

 

 

L/L button?

[hasole]

5 minutes ago, Harlikwin said:

 

L/L button?

 

He is talking about using scratchpad not ThisWay

[Harlikwin]

Hm maybe I have the wrong VR notepad. Link to this scratchpad thing?