BreaKKer Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) With the DCS AWG-9 and it’s infamous ability inside the F-14 community to lose TWS tracks out of nowhere, a lot of talk has gone into manually assigning previously lost TWS tracks to newly found TWS tracks. Part of this discussion was the DATA TRANS function found in the TGT DATA CAP category. The Heatblur manual describes it as follows, “The DATA TRANS (Data Transfer) function enables a hooked jam strobe to be correlated with another hooked track symbol. This is used to allow the WCS to better use both data sources to track the target. The strobe needs to be hooked before the symbol. Currently not implemented.” With this description, it can interpreted that it is used in JAM STROBE situations, and not in loss TWS track situations. To wrap up the actual meaning behind this forum post, the main questions I have as well as some squadron mates have is, what was it’s function in real life, it’s future function in DCS, and how were lost TWS tracks were dealt with in real life? Edited June 25, 2021 by BreaKKer BreaKKer CAG and Commanding Officer of: Carrier Air Wing Five // VF-154 Black Knights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grater Tovakia Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Ive been asking myself this as well, my interpretation was that it in essence allowed for track reassignment. However I may be totally wrong. Would love some SME/HB input on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naquaii Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Basically it's used when you have a track that is lost due to jamming but stilled tracked via a jamming strobe or the TCS. What the function does is it allows the RIO to correlate the strobe or TCS track with the hooked track to transfer it's information into the strobe/TCS track. That then allows the WCS to extrapolate the likely position of the target using the last known elevation, direction and speed combined with the angle rates of the jam strobe or TCS track. Not exactly but better than just a strobe. It was also possible to enter this mode directly from a TCS track or jam strobe without correlation but it required at least 15000 feet of separation or something like that and some qualified guesswork from the operator. This is not something that we're currently comitted to include as it is a lot of work for an advanced function that in most cases don't add that much. But I'm not the one to say no here, it might happen eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 (edited) Interesting, would this function not also help with radar TWS tracks that get lost (due to notching or so) and immediately reappear as a new track? Could this function be used to tell the WCS, that the new track = the old track? This would be really helpful to not loose IFF designation or missile track. But idk if this was possible IRL? Edited June 26, 2021 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naquaii Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, QuiGon said: Interesting, would this function not also help with radar TWS tracks that get lost (due to notching or so) and immediately reappear as a new track? Could this function be used to tell the WCS, that the new track = the old track? This would be really helpful to not loose IFF designation or missile track. But idk if this was possible IRL? No, afaik its only function was with strobes and TCS tracks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Naquaii said: No, afaik its only function was with strobes and TCS tracks. Alright then, thanks! Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreaKKer Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 I guess the question still stands, what was used to set lost TWS tracks to newly created ones? BreaKKer CAG and Commanding Officer of: Carrier Air Wing Five // VF-154 Black Knights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KlarSnow Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 You are assuming there is a function or ability to do so. There appears to be no evidence this ability existed. There is no similar capability in any other jet with TWS that Im aware of. This is just one of the issues the awg-9 and TWS and extrapolated tracks has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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