D4n Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Does a high pedal push rate damage some helicopter system, or why is there such an indicator? (Can't wait to see the official DCS Mi-24P manual soon!) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconPlot16 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Are you using pedals or just keyboard ? Having the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinozherous Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Also wondering about this warning... i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Big.Biggs Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Could it be a pre warning to prevent a situation where you loose the ability to have tail rotor authority by approaching that over torque area? (Complete layman terms, sorry) I9 (5Ghz turbo)2080ti 64Gb 3200 ram. 3 drives. A sata 2tb storage and 2 M.2 drives. 1 is 1tb, 1 is 500gb. Valve Index, Virpil t50 cm2 stick, t50 base and v3 throttle w mini stick. MFG crosswind pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASA6 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 high pedal push rate warning appears when you have the Pedal damper in the on position and you try to yaw too quickly too far left or right. you can see in the pedal movement (right ctrl + enter) how the pedal damper would slow down the rate of yaw incomparison with your actual rudder movement. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 So the "pedal yaw damper" is a switch somewhere? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, D4n said: So the "pedal yaw damper" is a switch somewhere? Switch off Damper while taxiing for easier control of direction, switch on again before T/O Edited June 27, 2021 by VampireNZ Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASA6 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Could I ask where is this page from ? which Manual is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Low Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Well it might be related to the Yaw channel, but I think it's also related to having the gunner sight doors open. Not 100% sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireNZ Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, NASA6 said: Could I ask where is this page from ? which Manual is it ? 1 Asus Maximus VIII Hero Alpha| i7-6700K @ 4.60GHz | nVidia GTX 1080ti Strix OC 11GB @ 2075MHz| 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200Mhz DDR4 CL14 | Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2 SSD | Corsair Force LE 480GB SSD | Windows 10 64-Bit | TM Warthog with FSSB R3 Lighting Base | VKB Gunfighter Pro + MCG | TM MFD's | Oculus Rift S | Jetseat FSE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 200 MB, okaaay DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) On 6/26/2021 at 10:32 PM, D4n said: Does a high pedal push rate damage some helicopter system, or why is there such an indicator? (Can't wait to see the official DCS Mi-24P manual soon!) Its not issue, this is information about exceeding the longitudinal angle by 25 degrees which could damage the gyro systems on Raduga station, especially if the station is open. This will damage the system. Edit - too fast posted. Wrong subject. I was writing about: "maneuver angle exceeded" that is on the same panel warnings. Edited June 28, 2021 by YoYo Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danzig Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, YoYo said: Its not issue, this is information about exceeding the longitudinal angle by 25 degrees which could damage the gyro systems on Raduga station, especially if the station is open. This will damage the system. So hard manouvering could damage the gyros even if the doars are closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Danzig said: So hard manouvering could damage the gyros even if the doars are closed? No, if it will be closed before the maneuver will be ok. I edited my post btw. Edited June 28, 2021 by YoYo Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) On 6/27/2021 at 3:19 PM, NASA6 said: high pedal push rate warning appears when you have the Pedal damper in the on position and you try to yaw too quickly too far left or right. you can see in the pedal movement (right ctrl + enter) how the pedal damper would slow down the rate of yaw incomparison with your actual rudder movement. Sooooo in other terms, it would be a lot better for the pilots if the lamp would say "pedal damper active" instead of "high pedal push rate", right? (because "high pedal push rate" = "so what?", and "pedal damper active" = obvious, since "damper" is a clear avionics-function. Please don't be offended, Mil-Mi engineers!) Edited October 16, 2021 by D4n DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovcar Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 А ещё там есть оповещение,маневр ограничен.Вот и руководствуйтесь этим сигналом. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobakopes Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) High push rate produced high stress on the airframe. It's just a setting that is supposed to prolong helicopter s life. They were expensive to build. In game the setting is pointless but I fly always with dampener because it's supposed to be like that Edited October 20, 2021 by Sobakopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 "setting" ? Can it be disabled in DCS? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Sobakopes said: High push rate produced high stress on the airframe. What's your source for this if I may ask? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobakopes Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 A dev said it. Why is it strange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 16 hours ago, D4n said: "setting" ? Can it be disabled in DCS? Rudder dampener can be disabled with switch on instrument panel left. It’s nice having it off for taxing but be aware when it’s off rudder AP is disabled, which contrary to the Cold War museum manual which says it only disabled heading hold mode IIRC 1 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 8 hours ago, AeriaGloria said: Rudder dampener can be disabled with switch on instrument panel left Cannot find it, where, more specifically? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger71 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, D4n said: Cannot find it, where, more specifically? #27 provided by VampireNZ post. And can also be found in copilot cockpit (red pedal damper switch) And to answer your previous question On 10/16/2021 at 10:43 AM, D4n said: Sooooo in other terms, it would be a lot better for the pilots if the lamp would say "pedal damper active" instead of "high pedal push rate", right? (because "high pedal push rate" = "so what?", and "pedal damper active" = obvious, since "damper" is a clear avionics-function. Please don't be offended, Mil-Mi engineers!) The warning annunciator is about the high push rate (deflection rate) and I believe can also light up without damper active (at higher deflection rates) It is a warning. High pedal push rate= potentially dangerous maneuver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4n Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 seems damage isn't implemented in DCS yet xD I disabled the damper, wildly went full left, right, left, right a few times, nothing happened DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 7 hours ago, D4n said: seems damage isn't implemented in DCS yet xD I disabled the damper, wildly went full left, right, left, right a few times, nothing happened @BIGNEWYcan you please implement DCS wide damage model for D4n's helicopter that will break if he just looks at pedals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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