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Has anyone tried running DCS on Windows 11 yet? Curious to how it performs.

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1 hour ago, Wolf359 said:

Has anyone tried running DCS on Windows 11 yet? Curious to how it performs.

 Didn't think it was available until end 2021/early 2022 - just Microsoft seems to have gone overboard on its ad campaign??

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58 minutes ago, Leg2ion said:

 Didn't think it was available until end 2021/early 2022 - just Microsoft seems to have gone overboard on its ad campaign??

Developer model available. I installed on my laptop a few days ago. So far, it feels pretty stable for dev model.

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I'm hesitant - it's one of the 'off' builds... (Every 2nd build seemed to be off from my personal experience for what I tend to find good in an OS - or versions I would have happily missed).

 

Win 3.1 - Good

Win 95 - Off

Win 98 - Good

Win ME - Off

Win XP - Good

Win Vista - Off

Win 7 - Good

Win 8 - Off

Win 10 - Good

... so I reckon for at least my preferences (which the above reflects) - that I might skip this one. Not that I'm superstitious - I just think that there's a pattern there where Microsoft seem to get it better '2nd time around'. 😉

 

(Yes - I know Win2K isn't listed - but that wasn't so much a home version, that was more NT / enterprise based)...

 

However I have heard reports (although probably exaggerated) that there is some performance gain. If this is true - I could be tempted to give it a shot.


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11 hours ago, Wolf359 said:

Developer model available. I installed on my laptop a few days ago. So far, it feels pretty stable for dev model.

 

Only one way to find out I guess - looking forward to your report...👍

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On 7/2/2021 at 5:17 AM, Dangerzone said:

I'm hesitant - it's one of the 'off' builds... (Every 2nd build seemed to be off from my personal experience for what I tend to find good in an OS - or versions I would have happily missed).

 

Win 3.1 - Good

Win 95 - Off

Win 98 - Good

Win ME - Off

Win XP - Good

Win Vista - Off

Win 7 - Good

Win 8 - Off

Win 10 - Good

... so I reckon for at least my preferences (which the above reflects) - that I might skip this one. Not that I'm superstitious - I just think that there's a pattern there where Microsoft seem to get it better '2nd time around'. 😉

 

(Yes - I know Win2K isn't listed - but that wasn't so much a home version, that was more NT / enterprise based)...

 

However I have heard reports (although probably exaggerated) that there is some performance gain. If this is true - I could be tempted to give it a shot.

 

 

I cannot deny the truth above, LoL.

 

So far it runs ok in a virtual machine with nothing to do. On a workhorse machine it may look totally different.

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On 7/2/2021 at 5:17 AM, Dangerzone said:

Win 98 - Good

While your general idea is quite true, that one on the other hand breaks your whole point… 🤣🤣🤣 What a piece of crap W98 was.

 

Anyway, Microsoft already thought for you what version you could use, W10 support ends in 2025 and I'm not sure there'll already be a W12 by then.

 

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2 hours ago, drPhibes said:

95 worked quite well (especially after the OSR2 service pack), but the first release of 98 was more of the "if it compiles, ship it" variety.

For the History shall remain that Bill Gates ctrl+alt+supr for three times, thrice, while presenting their brand new superfashion latest OS now (then) with a 10% fewer BSDs 🤣 .

 

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I'm running Win11 now, and have two issues. The first is a massive FPS-hit on all maps (sitting at 16-20 where I sat at 45-55 while on Win10), and the second is that I can't even load Marianas at all.

Doing a driverupdate on the Vidcard now to see if it helps.

Edit: Driverupdate for the GTX1660Super didn't help, but I did manage to get into Marianas through the Mission Editor. Fast Mission goes up to 9% before it just poofs out of existence. The game itself doesn't crash, however.

Will do some more testing, but taking that large an FPS-hit is a no-go for me. If I can't solve it I'm reverting back to Win10.


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So today I upgraded to win11, but needed to return to win10 for DCS... unfortunately, as win11 looks pretty neat. Desktop feels snappy and runs very smooth.

BUT...
DCS needs to be tuned for win11, or the other way round.

I am running DCS in VR and on win10 it runs just smooth. With win11 I had extreme stutters and lags, both in the cockpit and while looking "outside". Scenario was on top of clouds for a CASE III recovery...

My machine: 11900k, 3090, 4tb nvme, G2 as VR and all drivers are up to date...

 

When either DCS is tuned for win11, or after a while when win11 has received some updates, I will certainly return.

But just right now, win11 is no option for me on the gaming PC as it is mainly used for DCS...

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Thanks, enough information so far to take the decision to wait and see.

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Nope.

Thanks but no thanks. We've been jerked around enough by M$ already. 

 

I'll be sticking with Win10 - and would've stood instead with Win7 if I could - for the foreseeable future.

 

The folowing may not be a concen for the majority for now, but it is definitely a concern for the future.

And I personally can't agree with this VBS cripling gaming performance BS - hence why I won't pay nor use this product in my systems.

 

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/windows-11-pcs-can-hobble-gaming-performance/

 


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I've been working with Windows 11 outside of home now for a few months as my employer is testing it in the field before we launch our Windows 11 Upgrade project next month,

 

That being said, in limited time I've had with Windows 11 at home, I didnt have any issues with DCS. This was limited to about 30 minutes of launching, flying and closing the Sim just to test GPU Performance vs Windows 10.  They are pretty much on par for older GPUs (2011 MSI R7970 Lightnings)

Once I get significant time off, I will fully migrate to windows 11 on my gaming laptop, my desktop will stay Windows 10 for the time being as not all of my Rendering and Graphics Software suites are supported. or I might just get another M2 and dual boot.

 

On 10/5/2021 at 11:21 AM, Cruizzzzer said:

So today I upgraded to win11, but needed to return to win10 for DCS... unfortunately, as win11 looks pretty neat. Desktop feels snappy and runs very smooth.

BUT...
DCS needs to be tuned for win11, or the other way round.

I am running DCS in VR and on win10 it runs just smooth. With win11 I had extreme stutters and lags, both in the cockpit and while looking "outside". Scenario was on top of clouds for a CASE III recovery...

My machine: 11900k, 3090, 4tb nvme, G2 as VR and all drivers are up to date...

 

When either DCS is tuned for win11, or after a while when win11 has received some updates, I will certainly return.

But just right now, win11 is no option for me on the gaming PC as it is mainly used for DCS...



if I had to be honest, I would wait at least 3 months for nVidia and AMD to Release Optimized Drivers for the new Driver Model.


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An update on my end:

I ended up just wiping the entire system due to the framerate-issues in DCS (yes, I AM that level of maniac) and reinstalled the at-the-time latest Beta-build from USB. Since that time I've been happily running Win 11 without any issues what so ever, and even gained 3-7 fps in DCS overall. Usually sitting at between 45 and 50 on the ground in Caucasus and PG, about 40 on the ground on Syria. I don't run VR, so cannot comment at all on how that behaves.

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Have had zero issues with other games (Diablo III, Aliens Fireteam Elite, Battletech, Outriders, Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen etc). Haven't done any direct comparisons between framerates from Win10 to WIn11 on any except DCS, mostly since I haven't noticed any issues in the first place.

Wiped my workflaptop (HP ZBook 14u G5) and installed the release-build of Win11 on it. Zero issues with any of the workloads I have on it.

Take it for what it's worth, but so far I'd have to say that the main differences for me with Win11 are all visual.

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It took less than ten seconds to Google how to disable it. I don't get these ''humbug'' reactions everytime technology changes. There's always a way to debloat, unscrew, whatever.

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KB5006746 dropped for me today, which fixes the L3-cache latency-issues for AMD-CPU's. Haven't tested things with DCS yet but will do so a bit later today.

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My 8700k runs OK on 11, a few things get annoying, for example the left-mouse-click bug in File Explorer but that is minor and likely to get fixed.

With my new 5900X I am sticking to 10 for now. Not even trying to think about installing it, LoL.

 

Man, this 5900X flies...on 10 :=)

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I ran into a distorted sound issue under high load and the Realtek Audio Control won't let me split front and rear audio out into 2 separate jacks, which I think it should do as of 2021 and that kind of board. So...after trying many things that didnt fix the sound issues I am trying out 11.... let's see if it fixes the sound issue, heck, there is always something...

PXE doesnt work on that board, which is a pain... I like to install via PXE and it errors out when connecting to the WDS....LoL

 


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On 10/6/2021 at 1:01 AM, LucShep said:

 

Thanks for posting that. When I watched the show that made me decide I definately won't upgrade to Win 11 before 2025, when they'll cut off Win 10 support. I mean, even Windows 10 still is in Early Access right now...


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Just reverted back to Windows 10. The main issue I had was the fact that they decided to incorporate "foreground prioritization" into Windows 11. After a few months of testing (since Insiders build), this is a total disaster for flight simmers who run Opentrack in the background/tray while DCS is on the "foreground". This led to Opentrack being heavily throttled when it's minimized or when I'm running a fullscreen application, resulting in a choppy head movement. So yes, Thanks Microsoft!

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