musolo Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) There is a bug where contacts that are in direct visibility and are not obscured by terrain from AWACS do not appear at all on datalink (while being called out by this very AWACS) Also contacts that are visible at some point in time dissapear from DL for no reason ( same altitude, speed and direction and in direct AWACS visibility moment after dissapearing from DL screen. And well within detection range and parameters) To reappear random time after that(few dozens of seconds to few minutes) when at the moment of subsequent appearance its detection parameters are already deteriorated. That goes for both friendlies and bandits. Happens on Su-27,Su-33,J-11A. FlankersDatalinkBug Edited August 14, 2021 by musolo 1 1 ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakshot Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 We have noticed this for a long time, seems like its some kind of notch-gate effect from the AWACS, but yeah should not be happening like that. Tim "Breakshot" Mytrofanov | C.O. of 51 ПВО / 100 КИАП Regiments | twitch.tv/51breakshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Breakshot said: We have noticed this for a long time, seems like its some kind of notch-gate effect from the AWACS, but yeah should not be happening like that. More so contacts do not appear on datalink wnen are fed to F10 page by this same AWACS in Fog Of War mode. Another bug is that Aim-54 is not being shown on the data link most of the times when shot from Tomcat at allmost same range from AWACS and same ange(aspect), altitute and speed of the Tomcat at the moment of the launch do not differ to any significant margins. Yet more than half of the times missile is not shown on the Datalink. Just to let you guys know about this bug too when you will be fixing Datalink. I can make another bug report with attached track if needed. Edited August 5, 2021 by musolo ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 8 hours ago, musolo said: Another bug is that Aim-54 is not being shown on the data link most of the times when shot from Tomcat at allmost same range from AWACS and same ange(aspect), altitute and speed of the Tomcat at the moment of the launch do not differ to any significant margins. Yet more than half of the times missile is not shown on the Datalink. Just to let you guys know about this bug too when you will be fixing Datalink. I can make another bug report with attached track if needed. AIM-54s really shou;dnt be showing up on DL unless the F-14 is very close to the AWACS, the fact that they did so a few patches ago was a bug, and they fixed it Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) @dundun92 Made my day lol. Enlighten us poor red peasants please how close to AWACS should it become visible? And how often? Every time in met conditions or every other time or less?) You crearly know exact ranges and conditions better than ED team could ever guess))). I`m all ears man. Dazzle me Edited August 5, 2021 by musolo ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, musolo said: @dundun92 Made my day lol. Enlighten us poor red peasants please how close to AWACS should it become visible? And how often? Every time in met conditions or every other time or less?) You crearly know exact ranges and conditions better than ED team could ever guess))). I`m all ears man. Dazzle me The ED team said it was a mistake, and fixed it. Wheres your proof of the "exact ranges and conditions" again? Im not the one to convince here, its you trying to convince ED to undo the bug they fixed Edited August 5, 2021 by dundun92 Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 5 hours ago, dundun92 said: ED team said it was a mistake What kind of mistake are you talking about exactly? ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 58 minutes ago, musolo said: What kind of mistake are you talking about exactly? That AAMs had such a large RCS and were too easily detectable by radars, specifically AWACSs and the F-18 radar Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 @dundun92Could you share link perhaps?) ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 (edited) @dundun92Made some tests today. It appears on Datalink as far as 117 km away from AWACS thus gets picked up by it) Nothing realy strange or wrong about it. It`s a fat flying log the size of mini jet anyways) The only thing wrong with it is that is does not pick it up allways at met conditions. Will test for bigger distances. But i`d like to see link to that ED statement: On 8/5/2021 at 7:39 PM, dundun92 said: that they did so a few patches ago was a bug, and they fixed it Cheers! Edited August 6, 2021 by musolo ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 @BIGNEWYWhile you are still here sir would you check this track for reported bugs. Wonder if you`d agree with its validity) Thanks! ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted August 19, 2021 ED Team Share Posted August 19, 2021 Data link and terrain issues have been reported, but I have no news to share currently. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) On 8/19/2021 at 8:00 PM, BIGNEWY said: Data link and terrain issues have been reported, but I have no news to share currently. thanks If you wach the track file you`ll see that there are no issues with terrain interference in my report. In fact AWACS and all the contacts are placed that way so that terrain would not be a factor at all in this particular example. There are two dozens of fighter jets in the sky. Visually it appears that there is some kind of deliberate randomization taking place on the datalink screen that contradicts AWACS readings and feedback that it messages to allied flights. Is there any disagreement about this issue? Hope we`re on the same page with this one. Thanks. Edited August 21, 2021 by musolo ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuerte Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Still there's a problem with datalink working fine through the terrain and it should be fixed anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarksydeRob Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Fuerte said: Still there's a problem with datalink working fine through the terrain and it should be fixed anyway. Its nothing new , this including other FC3 issues have been reported for years . Unless a game breaking bug appeared over an update , dont expect anything to happen to FC3 anytime soon at all. Edited September 2, 2021 by DarksydeRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 hours ago, DarksydeRob said: Its nothing new , this including other FC3 issues have been reported for years . Unless a game breaking bug appeared over an update , dont expect anything to happen to FC3 anytime soon at all. Bug that i`m talking about has nothing to do with terrain. And i couldn`t find any previous bug reports considering this particular bug. ED says that thay ARE fixing FC3 bugs. 3 hours ago, DarksydeRob said: dont expect anything to happen to FC3 anytime soon at all. Are you responsible for this bug fix? Coz it`s sounded like you are the person in position to make such statements. ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 @musolo Since the AWACS is making a U-turn during your track, maybe you're getting this bug: Try the same with an invisible AWACS going in a straight line for the whole track. Can you reproduce the issue then? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musolo Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) @FlappieBug is abservable right from the beginning of the msission when AWACS messages me about bandits but they do not appear on datalink way too long after refresh time. i`m aware aof AWACS turning issues. This one happens when it is Not turning but flying straight`,) Edited September 8, 2021 by musolo ----RED FLAG---- DCS Server. Discord: https://discord.gg/2PjQ52V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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