Moonshine Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Been using custom CMDS programs so far with no issues, after the recent update now it breaks IC. This happens even when the adjustments are made within the parameters that you can tune when changing the CMDS in the cockpit itself. is there an alternative way to set up CMDS default profiles that use non standard values or do i have to manually adjust the programs every time i start the plane again? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recoil16 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I'm afraid you will have to adjust your programs manually until such time as we either get DTC or this IC change is (partially) reverted. Everybody said: "That's impossible!" Then someone came along who didn't know that and just did it. Flying the A-10C for the 107th Joint Aviation Squadron Developing and creating missions for Through The Inferno Join the TTI Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Yeah, I don't have time to go through all the clicking involved to set up CMS programs that don't waste all my expendables with a single button press, every single time I fly. The Viper and Hornet are getting shelved until this is fixed. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 17, 2021 ED Team Share Posted September 17, 2021 Hi all, IC changes were made to prevent known cheats and exploits being used. please list the legitimate mods and apps that are effected and we will pass this on to the team. thank you 2 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJpek Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 -Vaicom Pro, a mod that allows you to use the radio by talking instead of hitting the F keys on your keyboard, or to talk to jester instead of using the wheel, doesn't work anymore. Here's a link to their website: VAICOM PRO - About 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convexrook Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, TJpek said: -Vaicom Pro, a mod that allows you to use the radio by talking instead of hitting the F keys on your keyboard, or to talk to jester instead of using the wheel, doesn't work anymore. Here's a link to their website: VAICOM PRO - About ha, funny, it works fine for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LieutenantFalcon Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Modifying CMDS files should be fine for exploits, you're just modifying the counter measure profiles Mods\aircraft\F-16C\Cockpit\Scripts\EWS\CMDS\device\CMDS_ALE47.lua for the F-16C Mods\aircraft\FA-18C\Cockpit\Scripts\TEWS\device\CMDS_ALE47.lua for the F/A-18C 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFJackBauer Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just now, Convexrook said: ha, funny, it works fine for me. On multiplayer? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Hello, I am the creator of DiCE, a popular mod that enables you to use the ingame special menu to change aircraft countermeasure profiles, much like the JF17. Here is the forum thread with links to the ED Userfiles download, UI pictures, and the Github which contains the code for DiCE itself. https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/247605-dice-dcs-integrated-countermeasure-editor-by-bailey I have confirmed that changes to these files do not pass IC. I as well as others in the community believe that DiCE is a legitimate mod. 37 DCS VoiceAttack Profiles | My Mods and Utilities on ED User Files | DiCE: DCS Integrated Countermeasure Editor DCS Update Witching Utility | DCS-ExportScripts for Stream Deck Community Github Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: Hi all, IC changes were made to prevent known cheats and exploits being used. please list the legitimate mods and apps that are effected and we will pass this on to the team. thank you Hi, My mod for the Viggen RWR is being "blocked" by IC after today's patch. In my mind it's not really able to be exploitable, but adds more and more realistic sounds to the otherwise very inaccurate RWR that is in there by default. 11 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de.Impact Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Mods\aircraft\FA-18C\Cockpit\Scripts\Multipurpose_Display_Group\Common\indicator\MDG_strokesDefs.lua for better MFD readability... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alesia_Aisela Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Same for the F-5 RWR Fix and the MiG-21 (I imagine, since sound mods seem to have been broken in general) Both fixes for old/persistent bugs and inaccuracies. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derammo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) It appears that viewport export changes are no longer allowed: - we need to rename exported viewport names like LEFT_MFCD to make them unique across aircraft It appears that adding viewport export calls is no longer allowed: - we need to export things like RWR that are not exported by default This affects all Helios users (approximately 2000 DCS users, we don't track users exactly) and all cockpit builders who use additional displays for things like RWR. Helios also changes rendering settings in fonts.lua and across several instruments files (MFDs and such) to make exported viewports look legible on the F/A-18C. I can see that this could be considered an IC violation, so I would say this last part is optional but really convenient. [edit: attached a diff of changes made by Helios against a recent DCS release, for example] Helios.diff Edited September 17, 2021 by derammo 16 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyn Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) The F-5E is now unplayable in PvP multiplayer and PvE multiplayer on servers that use IC. This RWR mod has been widely considered a legitimate fix as the underlying issue has not been fixed for more than four years now. Edited September 17, 2021 by andyn 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, derammo said: It appears that adding viewport export calls is no longer allowed: jfc... this means dcs lost multiplayer support as far as im concerned. 10 CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood_315 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Hi, VAICOM PRO dev here. https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/329-vaicom/ https://www.vaicompro.com/ Confirmed VAICOM PRO plugin currently no longer passes IC in DCS .12852 open beta. cockpit/scripts/device_init.lua referenced. Only becomes apparent once entering a slot: before green shields are shown. No such issues in DCS stable version .10869 Thanks, Hollywood 34 2 There is no spoon. VAICOM PRO plugin for DCS World www.vaicompro.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonsky7 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) FFS! Well that's completely ruined my multi-monitor setup.... great! Can't even move simple displays like the controls indicator, or crew indicator in the Mi8 or Huey, how would they be exploitable? Edited September 17, 2021 by jonsky7 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rissala Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I thought these were supposed to be edited :(((. Why on earth would you not allow these. It is just 3 programs I wan't to edit.... 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhog Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I have a FULL A10C cockpit built over 8 years. This change that ED has made screws up so many of my panels… no RWR export, no CDU display export, etc. Please fix this. 25 Regards John W aka WarHog. My Cockpit Build Pictures... My Arduino Sketches ... https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-Dc0Wd9C5l3uY-cPj1iQD3iAEHY6EuHg?usp=sharing WIN 10 Pro, i8-8700k @ 5.0ghz, ASUS Maximus x Code, 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum Ram, AIO Water Cooler, M.2 512GB NVMe, 500gb SSD, EVGA GTX 1080 ti (11gb), Sony 65” 4K Display VPC MongoosT-50, TM Warthog Throttle, TRK IR 5.0, Slaw Viper Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acceleraptor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, derammo said: It appears that viewport export changes are no longer allowed: - we need to rename exported viewport names like LEFT_MFCD to make them unique across aircraft It appears that adding viewport export calls is no longer allowed: - we need to export things like RWR that are not exported by default This affects all Helios users (approximately 2000 DCS users, we don't track users exactly) and all cockpit builders who use additional displays for things like RWR. Helios also changes rendering settings in fonts.lua and across several instruments files (MFDs and such) to make exported viewports look legible on the F/A-18C. I can see that this could be considered an IC violation, so I would say this last part is optional but really convenient. [edit: attached a diff of changes made by Helios against a recent DCS release, for example] Helios.diff 42.91 kB · 3 downloads +1 on Helios being completely broken- it's a huge part of my being able to easily manage MFDs in the A-10, F18, and F-16. BIGNEWY- this page should have a list of the files that Helios modifies for you to pass along to the developers: https://github.com/HeliosVirtualCockpit/Helios/tree/master/Patching/Patches/DCS This change was clearly not thought through... If mods are going to be whitelisted manually, how do we verify those? Does every unique release of mods have to be whitelisted? Are these then tied all of a sudden to DCS releases? 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destarn Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rissala said: I thought these were supposed to be edited :(((. Why on earth would you not allow these. It is just 3 programs I wan't to edit.... CMDS Profiles should be excluded from breaking IC until we get a panel in special options to modify them or until we get the DTC. 9 Ryzen 7 5800X | RTX 2070S | 32GB 3200MHz | Reverb G2 | VPC Alpha, VPC MT50CM3, VPC TorQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acceleraptor Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, derammo said: It appears that viewport export changes are no longer allowed: - we need to rename exported viewport names like LEFT_MFCD to make them unique across aircraft It appears that adding viewport export calls is no longer allowed: - we need to export things like RWR that are not exported by default This affects all Helios users (approximately 2000 DCS users, we don't track users exactly) and all cockpit builders who use additional displays for things like RWR. Helios also changes rendering settings in fonts.lua and across several instruments files (MFDs and such) to make exported viewports look legible on the F/A-18C. I can see that this could be considered an IC violation, so I would say this last part is optional but really convenient. [edit: attached a diff of changes made by Helios against a recent DCS release, for example] Helios.diff 42.91 kB · 3 downloads And @derammo - i'd bet 2000 users is conservative... Probably my favorite piece of flight sim sotware TBH. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 17, 2021 ED Team Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Alesia_Aisela said: Same for the F-5 RWR Fix and the MiG-21 (I imagine, since sound mods seem to have been broken in general) Both fixes for old/persistent bugs and inaccuracies. I am still waiting to hear back on the team from this, there is some internal discussion that this is working as expected, and the functions being asked for are from a different version. So will look at that again. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foogle Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Viewport adjustment is broken; You've bricked my simpit for MP. Excellent work . 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippis Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, NineLine said: I am still waiting to hear back on the team from this, there is some internal discussion that this is working as expected, and the functions being asked for are from a different version. So will look at that again. There exists exactly zero evidence to support that stance and an overwhelming amount of evidence to support that the RWR actually functions as an intelligently designed RWR. If those internal doubters have anything to say to try to bolster their case, present it, otherwise it will — entirely correctly — continue to be seen as an inaccurate and bugged implementation. There's an argument to be made that the F-5 has the wrong RWR, but that is something very different. In that case, the proper solution would be to give it the correct and properly functioning RWR, not to keep the wrong and incorrectly modelled one. In a way the same thing goes for this entire IC debacle: is there any actual evidence to support the notion that the supposed problems that this is meant to fix even exist? The simple fact of the matter is that this wholesale banning of much-needed adjustments has broken the game. I hope this was not the intent and that the breakage will be fixed in short order. Edited September 17, 2021 by Tippis 19 ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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