Spirale Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Hi Mike, my first question: what will be the next air to ground radar update about? Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) There will be some improvements in terms of performance, regarding the 60km mode. Edited September 20, 2021 by IronMike 2 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirale Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Thx Mike. Any hope about having returning echos of Tanks for example? Is This an available feature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, Spirale said: Thx Mike. Any hope about having returning echos of Tanks for example? Is This an available feature? That I am not sure of. TBH my knowledge in the Viggen is much smaller than in the Tomcat (I know, shame on me heh), so I am not sure if or how that worked irl. This is maybe a question @Jediteo can answer better. Definitely worth investigating though, but again, I would just brabble something trying to give you a serious answer. 1 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirale Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Thx a lot Mike for your investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machalot Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Along the same lines, it seems that oil platforms don't show up on the radar, and the RB04 and RB15 don't see them. "Subsonic is below Mach 1, supersonic is up to Mach 5. Above Mach 5 is hypersonic. And reentry from space, well, that's like Mach a lot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Unless I'm misunderstanding....I can see tank/vehicles (especially in groups) perfectly well in the Viggen from ~20km out. In fact, I can see them well enough that I use the radar to spot targets for the RB-75 because screw that crappy sight. I think oil platforms are likely a DCS-side issue since afaik they are built into the map and not recognized as "units" by the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, TLTeo said: Unless I'm misunderstanding....I can see tank/vehicles (especially in groups) perfectly well in the Viggen from ~20km out. In fact, I can see them well enough that I use the radar to spot targets for the RB-75 because screw that crappy sight. I think oil platforms are likely a DCS-side issue since afaik they are built into the map and not recognized as "units" by the engine. This is exactly what I thought as well, however I would need to double check on the oil platforms. It could very well be that you are right, although buildings are also recognized by the radar. Maybe they are a type of building we do not account for, but I am wildly guessing now. Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirale Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 I did tests over Caucasus on the dark shore, perhaps it's me but i can not see tanks even if i tune with finesse the radar, because the ground appears very dark and tanks appears always dark on the radar (no WHT mode). I'll try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar79 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 I did tests over Caucasus on the dark shore, perhaps it's me but i can not see tanks even if i tune with finesse the radar, because the ground appears very dark and tanks appears always dark on the radar (no WHT mode). I'll try again.The ground shouldn’t appear dark. You have to tune down the gain so the ground is bright to be able to see tanks and other veichles with the radar. Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Other than tuning the gain, also make sure that you are in logarithmic gain mod and not in linear mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoot Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, TLTeo said: Other than tuning the gain, also make sure that you are in logarithmic gain mod and not in linear mode. other way around! ground units show up better in linear mode (with the gain reduced) while ships etc show quite nicely in logarithmic (which is the default) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirale Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 I can see tank as active ones. If they are "objects" i can not see them. Is there a way to define an antenna elevation cursor? mentally like i do? or is there another way? Thx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Spirale said: I can see tank as active ones. If they are "objects" i can not see them. Uh, that may also be a DCS core issue? @IronMike 3 minutes ago, Spirale said: Is there a way to define an antenna elevation cursor? mentally like i do? or is there another way? You can see the antenna elevation on the radar scope if you have IR-RB selected on the armament panel (or after pressing the IR missile fast select button? I'm not sure on that one...), otherwise you can still tweak it but you can't see what the antenna elevation is. edit: also, I haven't had a problem detecting stuff in the default log mode regardless of whether it's ships or tanks. Guess I have to play with linear mode more. Edited September 21, 2021 by TLTeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, TLTeo said: Uh, that may also be a DCS core issue? @IronMike Could be, I have to ask @Super Grover, whether statics are detected or not. While doing Jester Lantirn he may have come across the same or a similar issue, iirc. Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Ok, regarding ground objects: we need to boost the RCS for certain objects to make them show, I tracked it. 2 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobs Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 2:59 PM, Spirale said: Thx Mike. Any hope about having returning echos of Tanks for example? Is This an available feature? If you change radar to linear mode, and decrease the gain, it's possible to find vehicles quite easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirale Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, jacobs said: If you change radar to linear mode, and decrease the gain, it's possible to find vehicles quite easily. I've posted above, no problem to see active tanks but not possible to see "objects" tanks. However thx for your help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Spirale said: I've posted above, no problem to see active tanks but not possible to see "objects" tanks. However thx for your help Yeah there is nothing you can do about it, it is an oversight on our part that we haven't increased the RCS for static ground objects accordingly. Edited September 22, 2021 by IronMike 1 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirale Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 Thx Mike for your reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Spirale said: Thx Mike for your reply My pleasure. PS: we are currently aiming at including the fix for this with the 60km performance update. Edited September 23, 2021 by IronMike 2 Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirale Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 nowadays what are the biggest differences/ lacks between, lets say, 15-30km and 60 km? I would like to add that your daily presence on "our beloved Viggen forum" is a great pleaseure, make me feel the Viggen is alive 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machalot Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Spirale said: nowadays what are the biggest differences/ lacks between, lets say, 15-30km and 60 km? I would like to add that your daily presence on "our beloved Viggen forum" is a great pleaseure, make me feel the Viggen is alive Many Viggen drivers get a big performance hit (reduced framerate and laggy controls) when the radar is set to 60 km. Not 30 or 120, just 60. It's weird. "Subsonic is below Mach 1, supersonic is up to Mach 5. Above Mach 5 is hypersonic. And reentry from space, well, that's like Mach a lot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirale Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 Thx for this Machalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSE1234 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Might be out of the scope for this update, but getting some of the effects on the CRT display in this video would be awesome. And somewhat annoying at time I'm sure, but more immersive. 1 Viggen is love. Viggen is life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7-10700K @ 5GHz | RTX 2070 OC | 32GB 3200MHz RAM | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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