Has the Mistral Missile been nerfed?

[Silversmith]

Nothing in the patch notes for the last patch DCS Open Beta 2.7.6.12852 and the subsequent Hotfix  regarding the mistral missile,  but suddenly since the patch seem unable to get a head on lock,  only rear aspect,  and even then at far shorter range.  

 

[gelbevierzehn]

Yes, I have the same problem. For me it seems to be a multiplayer issue. Sometimes I got no tone even if the target is in full afterburner and rear aspect…

[P.Carrasco =Keep Flying=]

Yes, the mistral is broken, 50% it can detect the heat of the planes and 50% it can't.
I detected the problem right after this update DCS 2.7.6.12852 Open Beta - 17.09.2021

[bies]

What means "nerfed"?

[Rudel_chw]

5 minutes ago, bies said:

What means "nerfed"?

 

To "nerf" something means to reduce its 'power' or effectiveness within the game ... a term used mostly by teens playing First Person shooters 

[bies]

6 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

To "nerf" something means to reduce its 'power' or effectiveness within the game ... a term used mostly by teens playing First Person shooters 

Damn, good to know, you know DCS became a mainstream when you see the terms like that

 

So my answer is: nothing in DCS has been "nerfed" because it's a simulator, every time effectiveness of some system has been increased or reduced it's because the developers managed to obtain or process more data and change the system to work closer to the real counterpart. As simple as that.

Edited November 11, 2021 by bies

[Rudel_chw]

3 minutes ago, bies said:

So my answer is: nothing in DCS has been "nerfed" because it's a simulator, every time effectiveness of some system has been increased or reduced it's because the developers managed to obtain or process more data and change the system to work closer to the real counterpart. As simple as that.

 

Not always, sometimes the developers nerf things for game-balance purposes (yes, this is a Sim, but also a Game, and the multiplayer crowd cares a lot about game-balance .. pity that real life pilots can't ask for that when they go to war 

[bies]

3 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

Not always, sometimes the developers nerf things for game-balance purposes (yes, this is a Sim, but also a Game, and the multiplayer crowd cares a lot about game-balance .. pity that real life pilots can't ask for that when they go to war 

 

I guess MiG-21bis nuclear bomb isn't as strong as IRL.

[cromhunt]

When i was used as the target for mistral tests at Cazaux military tests center.(France,south west)
Was piloting an Alouette 2(astazou) and did it for one month every day during 4 hours.
The most of time the missile heat seeking was unable to find my aircraft (between 2000 and 3000 meters of distance).
I had to turn back  and show my back ,thus the turbine exhaust forwarding directly front of missile(around 600° )to make this stuff working.
The missile was so weak in heat seeker  that all the ingeniers crews decided after a while where the goal of specifications was unable to be reached.
To leave the missile as "good to serve"with only 40% of hit on targets.
Maybe the devs did want reproduce this stuff with something too accurate.
The result is that the players encounter the same thing than me at this time passed.
It is funny i think.
Good game

Edited November 13, 2021 by cromhunt

[Tiger-II]

On 11/12/2021 at 2:05 PM, cromhunt said:

When i was used as the target for mistral tests at Cazaux military tests center.(France,south west)
Was piloting an Alouette 2(astazou) and did it for one month every day during 4 hours.
The most of time the missile heat seeking was unable to find my aircraft (between 2000 and 3000 meters of distance).
I had to turn back  and show my back ,thus the turbine exhaust forwarding directly front of missile(around 600° )to make this stuff working.
The missile was so weak in heat seeker  that all the ingeniers crews decided after a while where the goal of specifications was unable to be reached.
To leave the missile as "good to serve"with only 40% of hit on targets.
Maybe the devs did want reproduce this stuff with something too accurate.
The result is that the players encounter the same thing than me at this time passed.
It is funny i think.
Good game

 

I don't care for nerfed. I only care for ACCURATE.

If it is rubbish IRL, then so be it.

I don't believe specs though as the side that uses them has reason to over-state their capability.

[falcon_120]

 
Not always, sometimes the developers nerf things for game-balance purposes (yes, this is a Sim, but also a Game, and the multiplayer crowd cares a lot about game-balance .. pity that real life pilots can't ask for that when they go to war 

And sometimes you are just encountering a bug, caused by other changes in this ever evolving sim.

In this case and if only happens in MP, this could be one.

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