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I'd love different variants, but probably not what you've got in mind (USAF F-16A Block 15, and the F-16CG Block 40 (pre-CCIP), the former would be the perfect counterpart to the 9-12 MiG-29 ED are looking at making).

For SDB you can keep the same block but your looking at a 2010s fit (M6.1 beginning circa 2011, at least according to this).

Sparrow is a F-16A Block 15 ADF thing (end of the Cold War ~1989, the regular F-16A Block 15 was much more numerous), maybe C Block 25 too, as well as at least Egyptian Peace Vector II/III/IV F-16CG/DG Block 40/42.

Harpoon is only on export aircraft AFAIK, with the AGM-84D Harpoon Block 1C on Egyptian F-16CG/DG Block 40/42, and ROKAF KF-16C/D Block 52s.

Unsure about MWS, only thing I've found so far is on Danish F-16AM/BM Block 20 MLU aircraft.


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F-16I / Sufa...'nuff said. Take my money! 😇

 

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I would love to see some older style F-16AM MLU's used by a lot of European countries. Along with older USAF Block 40's with the LANTRIN system. Defo wouldn't mind those as small payed additions requiring the current Viper module as main source. Say like $10-$15 per version. then we could perhaps  even have some export versions in there like Israeli and Taiwanese ones.

 

BUT, ED really needs to properly finish their current modern modules like the A-10C II, F/A-18C and even our current Viper before even considering these kinds of options. they are struggeling enough already while trying to pump out more modules and leaving released ones in a FUBAR state


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I think the real missed opportunity would be to model a two-seat F-16. Simply making an F-16D Block 50 or even an export variant with a PW engine like the F-16D Block 52+ would take much less effort than making something like an F-16A or early F-16C, yet add a whole slew of new capabilities, especially an F-16D 52+: AN-APG-68(V9), internal ECM, CFT, WSO, LANTIRN, etc.

 

This would also be the first combat capable "trainer" in DCS. The only other two-seat fighter we have is the F-14, and it's not very well suited for teaching new pilots how to fly or taking people along for incentive rides since you can't really fly the F-14 as a single seater. A two-seat F-16 would allow new pilots to practice everything from takeoff and landing to A-A and SEAD together with someone experienced. Not to mention taking potential DCS customers along for an actual mission where you're not merely watching a youtube video, but you're actually there. You get to experience everything first hand and feel what it's actually like.

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I REALLY want to see other blocks in DCS, especially the Block 40/42 - for the wide HUD and LANTIRN, it's probably my favorite variant of the F-16. I don't think it will require too much information and resources to add a couple of other F-16C variants in the future. 

 

This would be very nice, especially since so many things got cancelled/removed/rejected for our current Block 50. 

But of course this should be done after the F-16C Bl.50 is mostly feature complete. Heatblur does this with their Tomcat, and my respect for ED will rise drastically if they do the same.

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On 9/28/2021 at 5:35 PM, SpaceKraken said:

I REALLY want to see other blocks in DCS, especially the Block 40/42 - for the wide HUD and LANTIRN, it's probably my favorite variant of the F-16. I don't think it will require too much information and resources to add a couple of other F-16C variants in the future.

Yeah, I'd love a 40, though a pre-CCIP one. See this thread.

AFAIK:

  • Identical airframe
  • Same DFLCS (only flight model difference should be slightly less thrust, and weight)
  • Near identical engine
  • Identical RWR
  • Identical RADAR
  • Pretty much all of the weapons it would have are already fully implemented (apart from the GBU-24A/B, only other weapons missing is the GBU-24/B [Mk84] and GBU-10J/B [BLU-109/B] AFAIK)
  • Basically identical cockpit (only difference would be the HUD, though it has basically the same symbology)

The main development hurdle would be LANTIRN (though the TGP of which already exists on the Tomcats, (though a slightly different version)).

Though I'll still maintain that a F-16A Block 15 would be the perfect BLUFOR contemporary to the 9-12 MiG-29.

On 9/28/2021 at 5:35 PM, SpaceKraken said:

But of course this should be done after the F-16C Bl.50 is mostly feature complete. Heatblur does this with their Tomcat, and my respect for ED will rise drastically if they do the same.

Agreed.


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On 9/28/2021 at 11:35 AM, SpaceKraken said:

Heat-blur does this with their Tomcat, and my respect for ED will rise drastically if they do the same.

And Heatblur had only one job...

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On 9/28/2021 at 4:31 AM, Dawgboy said:

F-16I / Sufa...'nuff said. Take my money! 😇

 

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On 9/28/2021 at 8:14 AM, FoxOne007 said:

I would love to see some older style F-16AM MLU's used by a lot of European countries. Along with older USAF Block 40's with the LANTRIN system. Defo wouldn't mind those as small payed additions requiring the current Viper module as main source. Say like $10-$15 per version. then we could perhaps  even have some export versions in there like Israeli and Taiwanese ones.

 

BUT, ED really needs to properly finish their current modern modules like the A-10C II, F/A-18C and even our current Viper before even considering these kinds of options. they are struggeling enough already while trying to pump out more modules and leaving released ones in a FUBAR state

 

a ccip viper should be capable of still having backwards compatibility with Lantirn no?

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Kev2go said:

a ccip viper should be capable of still having backwards compatibility with Lantirn no?

 

 

 

I honestly don’t know, but It being such a specific Block 40 thing makes me doubt that it is. But then again, who am I to know this

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