-Scrat- Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Hi, My game is crashing very regularly My log is attached. Anyone can help me ? Scrat dcs.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Here's your crash stack: 2021-10-08 14:43:29.070 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: During the last 600.0s an average of 0 units objects and 0 ballistic objects have been active per frame 2021-10-08 14:43:29.070 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: The average frame rate of 89.9fps would have been 89.9fps if the flight data recorder was disabled 2021-10-08 14:43:29.070 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: DCS World simulation is taking 100.0% of CPU 2021-10-08 14:43:29.070 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: DCS GetWorldObjects is taking 0.0% of CPU 2021-10-08 14:43:29.070 INFO TACVIEW.DLL: Tacview recorder is taking 0.0% of CPU 2021-10-08 14:43:37.905 INFO EDCORE: try to write dump information 2021-10-08 14:43:37.906 INFO EDCORE: # -------------- 20211008-144338 -------------- 2021-10-08 14:43:37.907 INFO EDCORE: DCS/2.7.6.13436 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19043) 2021-10-08 14:43:37.908 INFO EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_253e24b785ea60ca\nvwgf2umx.dll 2021-10-08 14:43:37.909 INFO EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0A7EB04E 00:00000000 2021-10-08 14:43:37.915 INFO EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;D:\DCS World OpenBeta;D:\DCS World OpenBeta\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'Lionel' 2021-10-08 14:43:37.916 INFO EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19043 () 0x100-0x1 2021-10-08 14:43:38.441 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000089B04E (nvwgf2umx): cask::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER>::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER> + 0x24099E 2021-10-08 14:43:38.442 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000089B45E (nvwgf2umx): cask::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER>::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER> + 0x240DAE 2021-10-08 14:43:38.442 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000008F1276 (nvwgf2umx): cask::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER>::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER> + 0x296BC6 2021-10-08 14:43:38.442 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000008EDE80 (nvwgf2umx): cask::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER>::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER> + 0x2937D0 2021-10-08 14:43:38.442 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000008EDFC3 (nvwgf2umx): cask::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER>::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER> + 0x293913 2021-10-08 14:43:38.442 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000006C5FCA (nvwgf2umx): cask::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER>::SafeEnum<cask::md::WeightLayoutType_ENUMCLASS_SCOPEWRAPPER> + 0x6B91A 2021-10-08 14:43:38.443 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000063B387 (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x322517 2021-10-08 14:43:38.443 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000065A2DC (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x34146C 2021-10-08 14:43:38.443 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000063788A (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x31EA1A 2021-10-08 14:43:38.443 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000004A55A (nvwgf2umx): cask::ShaderList<cask::ConvShader,cask::Convolution>::availableShaders + 0x353A 2021-10-08 14:43:38.443 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000048F486 (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x176616 2021-10-08 14:43:38.443 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000001F993C (nvwgf2umx): cask::ShaderList<cask::ConvShader,cask::Convolution>::availableShaders + 0x1B291C 2021-10-08 14:43:38.444 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000021CFB9 (nvwgf2umx): cask::ShaderList<cask::ConvShader,cask::Convolution>::availableShaders + 0x1D5F99 2021-10-08 14:43:38.444 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000006F67D (nvwgf2umx): cask::ShaderList<cask::ConvShader,cask::Convolution>::availableShaders + 0x2865D 2021-10-08 14:43:38.444 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000042E8B9 (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x115A49 2021-10-08 14:43:38.444 INFO EDCORE: 0x000000000042E648 (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x1157D8 2021-10-08 14:43:38.444 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000005A13AC (nvwgf2umx): NVENCODEAPI_Thunk + 0x28853C 2021-10-08 14:43:38.444 INFO EDCORE: 0x00000000011F6914 (nvwgf2umx): OpenAdapter12 + 0x428084 2021-10-08 14:43:38.444 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14 2021-10-08 14:43:38.445 INFO EDCORE: 0x0000000000052651 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21 2021-10-08 14:43:38.676 INFO EDCORE: Minidump created. Please try these solutions: 1. Enable automatic Windows pagefile size (if it's disabled): 2. Clean your DCS cache files: 3. Check your RAM. You can use the Windows memory diagnostic tool: Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Hi Flappie, Thanks for your message. I followed your advice, it seems to be working so far. Scrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted October 18, 2021 Author Share Posted October 18, 2021 Hi, Game crash again This is the log. dcs.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Ok, let's try something else. Uninstall your graphics driver, reboot, then reinstall it. You can use DDU to uninstall if you really want to make sure everything is gone before the reboot. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 Hi Flappie, I did this but my game is still crashing Last log dcs.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Hi Scrat. Do you have ant shader mod or app installed? If so, uninstall it and see if your crashes stop. Are you using your BIOS XMP feature? If so, disable it and see if it helps DCS. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 Hi Flappie, Thx for your quick reply, I disabled the XMP profile in my BIOS. I have no shader mod or app installed. I will let you know ! Cheers Scrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Hi Flappie, After having disabled the XMP Profile in my bios and a few weeks of tests, it seems to be slightly better, I am having less crashes. However, when I fly the Gazelle I still experience a lot of game crashes and time out warnings. Attached is the DCS log of my last game crash (time out warning) playing multi-players with the Gazelle. If you have any other inputs, please feel free to share them! Thanks for your help Scrat dcs.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Hi @-Scrat-, your log doesn't show the crash: DCS closes almsot properly from Main menu. Please attach the most recent ZIP file you can find in your "Logs" folder. By the way, what are you calling "time out warnings"? You mean when you're disconnected from an online game? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team maximov Posted November 28, 2021 ED Team Share Posted November 28, 2021 If the game crashes, please send us reports packet to the server: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/faq/logs/ We will then have much more information to analyze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 Hi Flappie and Maximov, After a few weeks of tests, I confirm that my crashing problem was due to the XMP profile. Since I de-activated it, I have had no further crashes. Thanks a lot for your help!! I do have another question, my friend and I have compared the FPS offline and in multi-player. That's weird, because for the same conditions offline (same mission, same plane etc), I have between 15 to 20 FPS more than him, and when we play online (on BuddySpike), I have about 15 to 20 FPS less than him under the exact same conditions. Any idea why? It's quite annoying. Thanks guys & happy New Year Scrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Great! Thanks for your feedback. Your observation is interesting. I believe online sessions take more RAM because there's a lot of different playable aircraft loaded into memory. Do you guys have the same amount of memory? Is your pagefile stored on a fast drive? Do you have the same graphic card? Are your DCS and graphics settings identicial? You can both look into Windows Resource utility while in an online session in order to find out what is costing you FPS. I'm thinking about access timings, for instance. Happy New Year to you too. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Hi Flappie, "Do you guys have the same amount of memory?" Yes we have the same amount of memory (4 x 8Gb) 4000Mhz DDR4 If I take 4x 32Gb 4000Mhz do you think I will see a difference ? "Is your pagefile stored on a fast drive" See attached picture. Windows is intalled on the SSD DCS OB is intalled on the NVMe M2SSD "Do you have the same graphic card?" My graphic card is a RTX 3090 FTW3 evga Geforce ultra gaming And my friend's graphic card is RTX 3080 Geforce Gigabyte And we have the same CPU i9-10900K "Are your DCS and graphics settings identicial?" Yes we have exactly the same settings in DCS. "You can both look into Windows Resource utility while in an online session in order to find out what is costing you FPS. I'm thinking about access timings, for instance." See attached picture Thanks for your help ! Scrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just in case, you can check this: Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Another lead would be Tacview: if you have it, deactivate it and see if your FPS go up. More info here: Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Hi Flappie, Thanks for your 2 messages but there is no difference Any other advice ? If I take 4x 32Gb 4000Mhz instead of 4x8Gb 4000Mhz do you think I will see a difference ? Cheers Scrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 4x32 GB is overkill. I use 32GB of RAM (2x16 GB) with a 32 GB pagefile. DCS users with 64 GB of RAM don't even need a pagefile. You can try forcing your pagefile size to 32 GB and see how it goes: initial size: 32768 max size: 32768 But I'm not sure it will help you gain FPS. You tell me. If this doesn't help, I assume buying another 32 GB of RAM won't help either (even though RAM is way faster than an SSD-stored pagefile). Edited December 28, 2021 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted December 28, 2021 Author Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just to make sure, do I have to do that on the one where Windows is installed or where DCS is intalled ? Cheers Scrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 To my knowledge, there's no benefit in storing DCS and the pagefile on the same drive. By default, Windows chooses the fastest drive -if there's enough room on it- as the pagefile drive. I recommend not to change Windows choice. Simply edit the size, not the location of the pagefile. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 Hi, I tried to force the pagefile size on the drive where windows is installed (see picture attached) and there is no difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) Ok, you can tick back "Gestion automatique..." then (default setting). What about XMP? Does your friend use an XMP profile? Edited December 29, 2021 by Flappie Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scrat- Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 Hi Flappie, I think I have found the issue. In my BIOS the System Memory Multiplier was set on Auto (RAM was at 2133Mhz) with XMP profile off. I changed the System Memory Mulitplier to DDR4-4000Mhz and the XMP profil to ON (see attached picture) and I gain 15-20 FPS in Mulitiplayer session Now let's see if it crashes again with the XMP to ON. THX I will let you know. Scrat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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