now available When's black-shark 3 coming?

[hawa0835]

They said this summer, and now the summer is over.

[Enduro14]

yup.....

[bmbpdk]

35 minutes ago, hawa0835 said:

They said this summer, and now the summer is over.

No offence, but it sounds like you are new in the DCS community.
If so, welcome

Every date and every time the word "soon", "imminent", "x quarter", "time of year" etc. is used by developers forget about them, dont get you hopes up and dont expect a delivery on that date or time frame.

Often dates are set by the PR department that have no clue about coding and programming.

Many things can go wrong and bugs can appear out of nowhere and dont forget about, lets say, too "optimistically" deadlines.

So, sit back, relax and forget anything you read and heard recarding dates and promisses about the module.
Thats the hard reality of our niche hobby, sorry

[huchanronaa]

It is said that Russia has new military secrecy regulations, and it has been hesitant to add those functions. It's been procrastinating so far

Edited October 22, 2021 by huchanronaa

[Krez]

1 hour ago, huchanronaa said:

It is said that Russia has new military secrecy regulations, and it has been hesitant to add those functions. It's been procrastinating so far

 

It has been said. Other things have also been said. It will come when it comes.

 

[3WA]

From what bits have been said, it'll be after the Apache release.

[IcedVenom]

2 hours ago, 3WA said:

From what bits have been said, it'll be after the Apache release.

Unfortunately I fear this may be true. Americans are first priority as always.

[Rongor]

42 minutes ago, IcedVenom said:

 Americans are first priority as always.

I would agree the U.S. prioritized development of the Apache way more than Russia did with the Black shark.

[bmbpdk]

On 10/22/2021 at 9:36 AM, Rongor said:

I would agree the U.S. prioritized development of the Apache way more than Russia did with the Black shark.

The design, culture, budget, time and such between the Ka-50 and AH-64 cannot be compared.
The "budget", for the US military is a blanco check, while the Russians went through the tough 90´s and a complete national economy reset, something the US did not do.

Study the Russian/Soviet vs NATO/US tactics and strategies and you will get your answer why there is such a difference.

US military is shaped by invasions and world dominans, the Russians are not.
Doing a direct comparison of US vs. Russian military gear is like comparing a tumbler to a washer, they may look the same, but they are not, and therefore different prioritizations.

[Rongor]

1 hour ago, bmbpdk said:

The design, culture, budget, time and such between the Ka-50 and AH-64 cannot be compared.
The "budget", for the US military is a blanco check, while the Russians went through the tough 90´s and a complete national economy reset, something the US did not do.

Study the Russian/Soviet vs NATO/US tactics and strategies and you will get your answer why there is such a difference.

US military is shaped by invasions and world dominans, the Russians are not.
Doing a direct comparison of US vs. Russian military gear is like comparing a tumbler to a washer, they may look the same, but they are not, and therefore different prioritizations.

I didn't compare at all and I think nobody did. I commented on a comment which implicated that U.S. gear would receive priority in DCS development. The answer is simple: Much more people around here are hyped for an Apache than for a BS3.

These are interesting and agreeable facts you stated, but they totally missed the matter of the recent replies.

[BIGNEWY]

BS3 is in development, but I can not give you any ETA at the moment. 

When we are ready to share more we will. 

thanks

[bmbpdk]

7 hours ago, Rongor said:

I didn't compare at all and I think nobody did. I commented on a comment which implicated that U.S. gear would receive priority in DCS development. The answer is simple: Much more people around here are hyped for an Apache than for a BS3.

These are interesting and agreeable facts you stated, but they totally missed the matter of the recent replies.

When you wrote that the US prioritized the development of the Apache more than Russia did the Ka-50, you made it sound like a comparison between the two countries views on attack helicopter designs, doctrines and implementations.
I clearly misunderstood you.

[huchanronaa]

Bs3 has been discussed for a long time, is it still under development?

[jubuttib]

5 hours ago, huchanronaa said:

Bs3 has been discussed for a long time, is it still under development?

 

On 10/25/2021 at 4:25 PM, BIGNEWY said:

BS3 is in development, but I can not give you any ETA at the moment. 

When we are ready to share more we will. 

thanks

[nessuno0505]

It's quite obvious: they decided to go for the Apache first: the hype is huge (and everybody seem to forgot the f-16), the cost is huge (ah-64 is a complete new module, 80 dollars maybe? while black shark 3 is something like a-10c II: 20 bucks, 10 if you buy on release) and so huge is the revenue. Black shark 3 is on pause and it will arrive later, after ah-64 will be out, maybe incomplete and with bugs (just like the f-16) but everyone will have forgotten it.

[sylkhan]

Why do you wait for BS3 ?

It's nothing more than BS2.

Oh ... i forgot, you will have a new page on Abris for MWS, and 2 Iglas, ahahah, ..that's all.

[Fastbreak]

10 hours ago, sylkhan said:

Why do you wait for BS3 ?

It's nothing more than BS2.

Oh ... i forgot, you will have a new page on Abris for MWS, and 2 Iglas, ahahah, ..that's all.

If you fly the KA-50 from the beginning in 2008 and therefore know it in detail, you will recognise some mistake in the product that spoils its appearance slightly, e.g. rocket impact, object targeting etc. You will find many more shortcomings in the 'Bugs and Problems' pages of this forum, finally BS2 has got to be be revised - thoroughly.

Why do I wait? Well, a very legitimate question ...

I hope ED has gained enough experience after some 13 years of programming to be able to deliver a solid product once and for all!

In my opinion the new Apache is an addition and not a replacement for the KA-50 in DCS world. Primarily ED should optimise DCS performance very soon, so that 60fps minimum @1080p with graphics settings 'High' will be standard on an average pc system - otherwise flying the highly dynamical Apache may become very disillusioning ... 

Edited October 28, 2021 by Fastbreak

[Ramstein]

when it freezes

[Preendog]

I'd pay 20 bucks just for Igla. 

Tired of not being able to hit planes moving laterally with vikhr. 

 

 

 

 

[Fastbreak]

 

3 hours ago, Preendog said:

I'd pay 20 bucks just for Igla. 

Tired of not being able to hit planes moving laterally with vikhr. 

 

 

 

 

You are not familiar with the KA-50 killing rules of the ED bible, aren't you?

Thou shalt not kill any bird with vikhr. 

[the 11th commandment from the ED version]

 

[Steel Jaw]

Hopefully soon.  Although with the Longbow coming...

[Hobel]

Yo

 

 

[Nomatic]

Bought BS in 2008. Will buy every update they want to sell me. I have spent many nights in her now. I love flying her. I’m very much looking forward to the next few years for DCS.

[Schlomo1933]

Am 9.11.2021 um 04:38 schrieb RenegadeSkip:

Bought BS in 2008. Will buy every update they want to sell me. I have spent many nights in her now. I love flying her. I’m very much looking forward to the next few years for DCS.

+1 

[Taz1004]

On 10/27/2021 at 10:19 AM, sylkhan said:

Why do you wait for BS3 ?

It's nothing more than BS2.

Oh ... i forgot, you will have a new page on Abris for MWS, and 2 Iglas, ahahah, ..that's all.

My hope is that they will at least fix what's broken when they update it to BS3.  Right now, they don't even bother.  Datalink doesn't work, AI wingman doesn't work, ATGM pretty much only functioning weapon because rocket blast radius is ridiculous...

Edited November 11, 2021 by Taz1004