MustangSally Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 3 Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybrSlydr Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 That looks flippin legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybrSlydr Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Will this be compatible with a Cougar stick or would I need a Winwing stick too?Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSally Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 13 hours ago, CybrSlydr said: Will this be compatible with a Cougar stick or would I need a Winwing stick too? Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk It's a throttle, nothing to do with a stick!! Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CybrSlydr Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Yeah, I realize now that was a dumb question.Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwaze Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Winwing apparently already has some stock of F-16 Orion throttle arms and sticks, it will be released shortly (info from HOTAS/HOSAS/SIMPIT Discord). Might be already at reviewers. The surprising thing is F-16 stick franken add-on: "now, the lower picture. you can see a some kind of attachment on the side sitck, that’s a additional hat and switches with a vibrating motors inside. It can be detached of course." It transforms it to something similar to VKB, Virpil, modern Russian jet stick! With vibrating motor? How come the Orion base supports that? Will that be something you purchase separately, like Z-axis add-on for Super Libra, or will it be included, like the ministick in the A3xx Sidestick Grip? Tony409 (Winwing representative on Discord) wrote: "I need to make sure everyone looking at pictures know about that little attachment. it’s an “addon” part with two extra hat with vibrating motors, it can be detached and then the side stick will be look like an F16 grip. We add a directional hat to MSL STEP, NWS switch so it’s no longer a simple press button, It provide more functionality" Edited January 7, 2022 by Bwaze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Looks pretty good. It's about time we had a proper Viper throttle since the Cougar. 1 Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye91 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Will the Viper throttle grip be compatible with the Taurus base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwaze Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I don't think there is an official answer regarding F-16 throttle grip on Taurus. There was some indication on their Discord that it might be compatible with an extra attachment kit. But pricing of Winwing grips doesn't make much sense right now - complete throttles or complete sticks with bases cost about as much as just the throttle grips or just the joystick grip, since the grips aren't discounted: Orion Throttle FA-18 (base and handles) $235.96 F/A-18 METAL THROTTLE HANDLES $215.95 Orion Joystick FA-18 (base and grip) $223.96 F/A-18 METAL JOYSTICK GRIP $215.95 Of course, buying complete HOTAS is even better deal, only $399.96 for everything, bases and grips. And shipping costs are also high for smaller items - shipping of complete Orion HOTAS set is about $80, but even shipping a single button is allegedly $50... And I think this will not change much with release of new grips. So it will be almost just as expensive to buy whole new HOTAS set as buying just the F-16 stick and throttle grips (especially on sales like this one whis is ongoing from the beginning of December), and neither stick nor throttle grips are very easily interchangeable. Joystick grip is easier, but I don't think it's made to be plugged and unplugged on regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) Is that $80 to US for complete Orion? I'm in Colorado. Edited January 11, 2022 by BuzzU Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwaze Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) As far as I have seen, yes. But you can check that in Winwing Shop before making an order. And I think buyers from USA should use FOX2STUDIO store: https://fox2.wwsimstore.com/STORE Instead of WWSIMSTORE: https://www.wwsimstore.com/STORE But I've read on Discord that there is nothing wrong with ordering from either of them. Edited January 12, 2022 by Bwaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwaze Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 From Discord: The picture comes from the online shop of one of WINWING's distributors in mainland China "Rumble Pak" inside of F-16 grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwaze Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Paddles on F-16 stick and on add-on are axes, can be of course configured as buttons. And add-on has an analog stick? Edited January 13, 2022 by Bwaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I don't understand? Only the top picture is an F-16 grip. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSally Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 Its the same grip in all the pics. You will also be able to purchase the button addon. Whats not to understand? Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irpus Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Yes but from the second picture you can see that they are young ti produce a sort of add-on with few more options that should be optional. It looks a nice idea.Inviato dal mio CPH2145 utilizzando Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I looked too fast. I didn't realize it added to the F-16 grip. I thought it was made that way. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwaze Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 It's getting closer! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberNV Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I hate WinWing. They keep making me shell out dollars after dollars!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob10 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Looks interesting. Looks like it might make using the front switches a little harder since the throttle handle sticks out to the right further (and the front left ones are already marginal if the throttle is full forward). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwaze Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 If you use the switches on the forward part of the throttle base for their labelled use, you don't operate them in afterburner, or even full military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob10 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Bwaze said: If you use the switches on the forward part of the throttle base for their labelled use, you don't operate them in afterburner, or even full military. Since the F-16 (basically) doesn't have any of the functions labelled for 3 leftmost switches, they are already repurposed for other functions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irpus Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 F-26 has a hook Inviato dal mio CPH2145 utilizzando Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSally Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Irpus said: F-26 has a hook Inviato dal mio CPH2145 utilizzando Tapatalk Which isn't used 99.9% of the time Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irpus Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Which isn't used 99.9% of the timeAhah I just noticed that I wrote F-26 instead of 16...so maybe in a F-26 you use the hook more often! Jokes aside, It Is apparently not very useful in the case of the F-16, I was only pointing out that such a switch is present in the real cockpit. But there are several switches that are not used often. In the real plane they are necessary but not so in a hotas. Inviato dal mio CPH2145 utilizzando Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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