Trettifire Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 So, since ED is doing BS3... Could we please please have chaff as an option for defensive countermeasures? It would be a great add-on so we don't have to get torn a new one by the 2S6 and the SA-15 all the time. I'm thinking chaff on one side and flares on the other, configurable just like with the F/A-18. And it would not mess with the realism (I know it's just wikipedia but still): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just to let you know, the Tunguska doesn't care about chaff, at least in DCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettifire Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 16 hours ago, razo+r said: Just to let you know, the Tunguska doesn't care about chaff, at least in DCS. Are you talking 30mm, missiles, or just in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Both its guns and missiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettifire Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Good to know, thanks. It sure as s**t does not care about flares. The wish still stands, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobel Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 11/24/2021 at 7:47 PM, razo+r said: Just to let you know, the Tunguska doesn't care about chaff, at least in DCS. In real life, they are also optically steered, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) On 11/24/2021 at 12:40 PM, Trettifire said: So, since ED is doing BS3... Could we please please have chaff as an option for defensive countermeasures? It would be a great add-on so we don't have to get torn a new one by the 2S6 and the SA-15 all the time. I'm thinking chaff on one side and flares on the other, configurable just like with the F/A-18. And it would not mess with the realism (I know it's just wikipedia but still): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50 Thank you Tunguska's missiles are not radar guided, it just uses it for tracking, but is not dependent on it for either guns or missiles. As for radar guided missiles in general, you should not be high enough for them to see you in the first place, so... that's on you 90% of the time. As for the Sa-15 specifically, that is probably one of the absolute worst things you could run into in the field, as it's intended as point defense for intercepting low flying targets and even missiles. Chaff probably won't do you much good as you'll be dead by the time you know it's shooting at you But again, if you're getting spotted by radar SAMs, either you're too high or coming from a bad direction or simply should be going someplace else. There is no cure for bad tactics except good ones. IE if you're getting killed by blundering into situations you shouldn't be in, the solution is NOT doing that, not some stuff on your aircraft. Edited December 25, 2021 by Mars Exulte Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettifire Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Yeahhhh...I'm not disagreeing with you but the real Ka-50 did have chaff, didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Trettifire said: Yeahhhh...I'm not disagreeing with you but the real Ka-50 did have chaff, didn't it? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettifire Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 Wow. I guess all these sites are wrong, along with RT's documentary on the Ka-50. But I'm sure you know best. https://www.airvectors.net/avka50.html https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=286 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50 https://man.fas.org/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-50.htm http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/kamov_ka50_hokum.htm And before the trenches here get any deeper, I threw out the 2S6 as an example because you can use chaff to throw off radar. You also have the issue with airborne threats and their radar missiles. The reason I wanted chaff was that it was on the actual aircraft, regardless of A16s opinion, and that it should be fairly easy to implement for ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Okay you mean that the Ka-50 has the physical ability to have chaff cartridges installed into the UV-26 launcher buckets. Fair enough. I'm assuming you would just use the UV-26 as-is and just select left/right/both for flares/chaff/both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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