Limaro Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Currently the realtion between wind and roughness of sea seems a bit unrealistig. espacially on marianas, I dont expect the ocean to be as quite as a lake, just because I don't setup a storm. Maybe it would be greate to just separate both options, or better, to have a minimum roughness for the see depending on the wind, but being able to make maximum roughness, with moderate wind. 8 Windows 11 Pro 64Bit - AMD Ryzen 5800X3D - AMD 6900 XT - 64 GB RAM VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Throttle, VPC WarBRD Base, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lace Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 +1 Sea states are affected by many factors, not just winds. Some long rolling swells in deep water would add some more realism to the water conditions. 2 1 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, FSSB-R3, Cougar throttle, Viper pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Rift S. NTTR, SoH, Syria, Sinai, Channel, South Atlantic, CA, Supercarrier, FC3, A-10CII, F-5, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Harrier, M2000, F1, Viggen, MiG-21, Yak-52, L-39, MB-339, CE2, Gazelle, Ka-50, Mi-8, Mi-24, Huey, Apache, Spitfire, Mossie. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 With the weather being overhauled we might get that wish. 1 The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) +1, at least as an override option. Edited November 28, 2021 by Northstar98 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake87ske Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 + 1. I also like the idea to get a more realistic idea of pitching deck for carrier landings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoschek Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Agree 100%. We shouldn’t have to put in a 40 knot wind to get a rough sea. Often times my carrier is completely static in these cases because I don’t want an unrealistic 50 to 60 knot wind component during my cat shots and landings. No ocean on the planet is a glassy pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lace Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Phoschek said: No ocean on the planet is a glassy pond. Actually, sometimes it is. The Pacific is so named for a reason, I've done many crossings in glassy conditions (and a few in rougher states). Point is, both calm and rough conditions are realistic, and we should be able to specify in the ME, just like the atmospheric conditions. 1 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, FSSB-R3, Cougar throttle, Viper pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Rift S. NTTR, SoH, Syria, Sinai, Channel, South Atlantic, CA, Supercarrier, FC3, A-10CII, F-5, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Harrier, M2000, F1, Viggen, MiG-21, Yak-52, L-39, MB-339, CE2, Gazelle, Ka-50, Mi-8, Mi-24, Huey, Apache, Spitfire, Mossie. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkk01 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The Razbam S Atlantic seascape always looks suitably stormy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giggles Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) As this is a simulator, best if it's kept as close to reality, plenty of material out there to check and verify between what it looks like IRL vs DCS. Has the OP tried the values below, are they different looking? Genuinely interested. Sea state is predominately based off surface wind speed. Swell is separate and probably not really needed for DCS. I have been rightly corrected that swell is important for deck operations. Edited November 30, 2021 by Giggles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lace Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 39 minutes ago, Giggles said: Swell is separate and probably not really needed for DCS. Swell modelling is absolutely needed for realistic carrier deck movement. Whitecaps for window dressing, swell for pitching and rolling decks. 3 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, FSSB-R3, Cougar throttle, Viper pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Rift S. NTTR, SoH, Syria, Sinai, Channel, South Atlantic, CA, Supercarrier, FC3, A-10CII, F-5, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Harrier, M2000, F1, Viggen, MiG-21, Yak-52, L-39, MB-339, CE2, Gazelle, Ka-50, Mi-8, Mi-24, Huey, Apache, Spitfire, Mossie. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giggles Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lace said: Swell modelling is absolutely needed for realistic carrier deck movement. Whitecaps for window dressing, swell for pitching and rolling decks. Valid point, don't disagree. I fly mostly warbirds so didn't really think of that. But for reference sea state isn't just whitecaps, it can be thought of as locally generated swell once the winds are really strong, aka it will affect a ships deck just the same as swell. Ideally both should be modelled as close to reality, based on real world values entered into the editor. Edited November 30, 2021 by Giggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lace Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Giggles said: Valid point, don't disagree. I fly mostly warbirds so didn't really think of that. But for reference sea state isn't just whitecaps, it can be thought of as locally generated swell once the winds are really strong, aka it will affect a ships deck just the same as swell. Fully aware, been at sea for 21 years now. 1 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, FSSB-R3, Cougar throttle, Viper pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Rift S. NTTR, SoH, Syria, Sinai, Channel, South Atlantic, CA, Supercarrier, FC3, A-10CII, F-5, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Harrier, M2000, F1, Viggen, MiG-21, Yak-52, L-39, MB-339, CE2, Gazelle, Ka-50, Mi-8, Mi-24, Huey, Apache, Spitfire, Mossie. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Scribbles Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 +1 on these aditional options. RIG SPECS: -Win 10 professional -i5 8600k @5.0GHz -ASUS Maximus X Code -Samsung 960 Evo 256GB M2 SSD -Samsung 970 Pro 1TB M2 SSD -32GB DDR4 RAM @3000MHz -Asus Strix 1080 Ti 11G -LG 34UM68-P Monitor Notebook: -Win10 - 2018 ASUS ROG GL703gs-E5011T (i7-8570H, 16GB DDR4, 256GB M2 SSD,GTX1070 8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksen Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 +1 Options for ocean swell would be nice. I would and should be up to the mission editor to balance it accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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