please see faq Release by end of Q1 2022

[davidrbarnette]

16 minutes ago, Archduke said:

The urge for instant gratification sure is a frightful thing.

I just came back from a very, very good restaurant. What can I say, I had to wait for the various dishes because good things take time. But at no point I felt compelled to storm into the kitchen and demand the half prepared dish from the chef. Which is what some people obviously want.

While I certainly understand the intent, your example isn't very good... A more accurate representation would be paying for the dinner up front a month before the meal, confirmed with a video from the restaurant on YouTube concluding with "2021" in giant white letters with loud music playing. As the reservation date neared, they sent you a communication saying "sorry, we're behind, but we hope to get you in prior to the Christmas holidays / end of the year." As that approached, they sent you another communication stating that they'd now hope to get you in by the end of January. As that date approached, they sent you a slightly more vague communication saying they're still behind, but that they hope to get you in by the end of February, but definitely (hopefully?) by the end of Q1. At the end of February, same process, only the end of Q1 (hopefully?). 

You're right, it definitely doesn't call for storming the kitchen... but you'd likely be a bit annoyed.

[Raptor9]

6 minutes ago, El buscador de la verdad said:

Anyway, if people are honest, then they will acknowledge that they share my feelings. 

Yes, most people share your feelings for wanting to play the module as soon as possible, but that doesn't mean they share your demands.  Being honest doesn't equate to agreement.

[NineLine]

26 minutes ago, El buscador de la verdad said:

I paid for it. ED did not need to wait for my money. 
The customer makes the business possible. As the customer, my desires have value. 

 

If I was expected to just shut and wait like a good giver of money, then the videos of the module inspire the exact opposite. I would rather never have known that this was being made and then to just be happily surprised one day to see that it is for sale than to be dragged along, teased and disappointed like this. 

 

You may request for a refund, the pre-order is to support us, and to give you a discount on the purchase, if that is not worth the wait, then the best bet is to refund and pay for it in full when it releases. But that is enough on the subject. Thanks.

[ditchxx]

I'll be happy when it's released, even if it takes longer. After I bought in to Star Citizen's early access over 7 years ago and it's still nowhere near finished a few months waiting for an Apache is like a New York second....;)

[El buscador de la verdad]

hace 4 minutos, Raptor9 dijo:

Yes, most people share your feelings for wanting to play the module as soon as possible, but that doesn't mean they share your demands.  Being honest doesn't equate to agreement.

Perhaps they never considered expressing expectations for access as an option prior to seeing it modelled for them by another.

[Dannyvandelft]

I paid for it. ED did not need to wait for my money. 
The customer makes the business possible. As the customer, my desires have value. 
 
If I was expected to just shut and wait like a good giver of money, then the videos of the module inspire the exact opposite. I would rather never have known that this was being made and then to just be happily surprised one day to see that it is for sale than to be dragged along, teased and disappointed like this. 

It's called a PRE-order. PRE! as in PRE-release. If you got instant access to it, it wouldn't be a PRE-order, but just, an order. FFS some of you really are "special".

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[BIGNEWY]

Just now, El buscador de la verdad said:

Perhaps they never considered expressing expectations for access as an option prior to seeing it modelled for them by another.

Sorry you are not happy, but you have expressed your opinion, please dont derail this thread.

Early access is planned for Quarter 1 2022 as was mentioned in the newsletter and the mini updates. 

Im sure once it is here you will enjoy it, if you are not happy please contact support directly. 

thanks

[Archduke]

16 minutes ago, davidrbarnette said:

You're right, it definitely doesn't call for storming the kitchen... but you'd likely be a bit annoyed.

Of course I might be annoyed. And I’d say so. But ED have explained the reasons and I’m sure they’re working very hard to get the early access out of the door as soon as possible. So there is a very big difference between voicing some polite discontent at the delay and clamouring for instant release. I can see the flamewars from over here if ED dared to release module into EA that isn’t ready for this.

 

Anyway I’m outta here. I think it’s a better use of my time to practice my hovering skills in the Huey instead of arguing about this.

Edited February 18, 2022 by Archduke

[El buscador de la verdad]

Alright, as ye folk were. I have made my thoughts known.

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, El buscador de la verdad said:

Alright, as ye folk were. I have made my thoughts known.

 

You said that you are a dcs users for many years, yet your account is brand new and this is the only thread you've made ... sorry, but to me that just screams trolling.

 

Nineline explained very clearly to you, that the YT creator is not using an advance release of this module, yet you refuse to understand.

 

I will add your fake user to the ignore list, my only regret is that I dont know what is your real user account, to ignore that one too 

So long.

[Iron Sights]

I’m flying the A-10, to get ready for how hard I know it will be and how many hotas commands I will need to remember. It’s gonna be fun when it comes out. The way I figure it, when you see the cold start video, it will be more than likely close to release. I appreciate the hard work and the commitment to getting it right before releasing the product.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

I'm honestly betting on another delay. Annoying as hell, but they're patching the game in the meantime AND it's better to be late than repeat the Viper.

[El buscador de la verdad]

hace 2 horas, Rudel_chw dijo:

 

You said that you are a dcs users for many years, yet your account is brand new and this is the only thread you've made ... sorry, but to me that just screams trolling.

 

Nineline explained very clearly to you, that the YT creator is not using an advance release of this module, yet you refuse to understand.

 

I will add your fake user to the ignore list, my only regret is that I dont know what is your real user account, to ignore that one too 

So long.

I dropped the issue of the video of the youtuber.

I had not been active on forums or multiplayer, but rather single player. At no point earlier had I perceived a cause to speak up.

 

hace 1 hora, Iron Sights dijo:

I’m flying the A-10, to get ready for how hard I know it will be and how many hotas commands I will need to remember. It’s gonna be fun when it comes out. The way I figure it, when you see the cold start video, it will be more than likely close to release. I appreciate the hard work and the commitment to getting it right before releasing the product.

One question that arose in my mind is: "What harm does having what is currently completed accessible for people that want to see and to try it?"

[NG91]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb El buscador de la verdad:

One question that arose in my mind is: "What harm does having what is currently completed accessible for people that want to see and to try it?"

You actually can do that with every module wich is out there for 14 days which I never see in any other Sim or game. This is absolutely phenomenal.

Think it like this. This Apache is the most realistic and accurate module we ever had in a Simulation and maybe ever will have. We can be grateful to even get EA when ever it will coming out. Many other devs don’t do that. There are many other sims and aircrafts I would be happy to fly but guess what I have to wait. NO EA. 
 

[doedkoett]

15 hours ago, El buscador de la verdad said:

     I paid my money immediately. Neither did I give Eagle Dynamics a notice of my intent to release payment at some indefinite date in exchange for access to the module instead of providing the funds in the beginning, nor would they accept such an offer. 

I guess the concept of pre-order is not for you. I think you should have waited until it is released as complete, in maybe two years. Then you will know what you pay for and receive it immediately.

Pre-order is for gamblers who are willing to take a bet on release dates, feature completion, bugs, prestanda issues and what not. So if you want to "give Eagle Dynamics a notice of my intent to release payment at some indefinite date in exchange for access to the module" you simply say "Hey, ED, I´ll buy it when it is released in full." 

A week here, a week there. Man, if exact releasedate is important to you guys - relax and wait. I am pretty sure that ED will give an exact release date some time in 2024 or 2025. 

[Coco]

Don't post much on forums but I purchased the AH64D and after watching MW's videos, it looks very functional and guessing 90% complete. What I beleive annoys a lot of simmers with ED is that they keep pumping out new content and not completing what the started within a reasonable timeframe. 

Should the cycle of a product from pre-purchase to complete take 3-4 years? 

[BIGNEWY]

Please do not derail this thread, stick to the topic 

DCS: AH-64D - Release by end of Q1 2022

17 minutes ago, Coco said:

Don't post much on forums but I purchased the AH64D and after watching MW's videos, it looks very functional and guessing 90% complete. What I beleive annoys a lot of simmers with ED is that they keep pumping out new content and not completing what the started within a reasonable timeframe. 

Should the cycle of a product from pre-purchase to complete take 3-4 years? 

We are a step closer now, as Wags has mentioned closed testers currently have access and are testing hard. 

From initial plans to early access is years of work already, but will be worth that wait. 

thank you

[Dannyvandelft]

Please do not derail this thread, stick to the topic 
DCS: AH-64D - Release by end of Q1 2022
We are a step closer now, as Wags has mentioned closed testers currently have access and are testing hard. 
From initial plans to early access is years of work already, but will be worth that wait. 
thank you

I feel sorry for you guys, having to repeat yourselves over and over. Just know the silent majority appreciates what you guys bring us every year.



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[BIGNEWY]

Just now, Dannyvandelft said:

I feel sorry for you guys, having to repeat yourselves over and over. Just know the silent majority appreciates what you guys bring us every year.



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Thank you for the support, dont worry in most cases it is only passion for DCS. 

 

[fagulha]

2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Thank you for the support, dont worry in most cases it is only passion for DCS. 

 

Agreed. We all came from different cultures and beliefs, different countries, different ideas, but we all share the same passion and no one can take it from DCS. Along this years i met awesome people, some became friends, i learned a lot with everyone and helped a lot of people with my experience and everyday i come across people who need help in DCS and i also get help when needed, everyone is willing to help and i think that´s remarkable. I may sometimes get upset like everybody does for some bugs/lack of updates in my beloved Hornet but i always know that sooner or later ED will surprise us again.

I´m not a Heli guy (Hornet lover here) but i´m glad that heli guys get their modules released and keep on fulfiling their  dreams like the Hornet did/does to me.

Keep up @BIGNEWYand team.

Best regards to all from Portugal,

F.

Edited February 19, 2022 by fagulha

[hannibal]

11 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Thank you for the support, dont worry in most cases it is only passion for DCS. 

 

[FELIX2013BRASIL]

Tecnicamente o lançamento tem data final de 31 de março 2022.

Tenha paciência Gafanhotos.

[fagulha]

2 hours ago, FELIX2013BRASIL said:

Tecnicamente o lançamento tem data final de 31 de março 2022.

Tenha paciência Gafanhotos.

País irmão  

[El buscador de la verdad]

hace 16 horas, FELIX2013BRASIL dijo:

Tecnicamente o lançamento tem data final de 31 de março 2022.

Tenha paciência Gafanhotos.

Oye, hermano ¿olvidaste que estamos usando inglés? Pues a mí eso no me importa, es igual de cualquier manera.

Edited February 21, 2022 by El buscador de la verdad

[silverdevil]

i have been a patron of DCS since 2011. i have gone through countless computers, video cards, hard drives, controllers, modules, campaigns. i have spent over $750 in the DCS store alone. all to satisfy the habit of DCS. the early release and WIP has been and will be a thing, at least for now. DCS keeps getting better despite the hiccups here and there. you notice i say hiccups. because all these are corrected eventually. my grandfather would have been amazed at video games. he always said to me about other technology. "its amazing it works at all." i play other games for a little while after release but i always come back to my best girl, DCS, even if she is a little crazy sometimes.