LooseSeal Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, assafm25 said: The content need to be more "new" and "surprises" then just a lots of infrometion that we all must already know. Agh. There is just so much I disagree with in your post... so much self-entitlement! ED is a developer, not an entertainment company here to give you a daily "surprise", like a child sitting in front of a jack-in-the-box waiting for a module to pop out. They've said repeatedly that they will give information when they think it is ready or necessary - not simply to entertain us. Besides, whether or not we know something is happening does NOT affect the speed at which it happens. It will come when it comes. They gave us the roadmap at the start of last year - did knowing all that stuff make it go any faster? No. As for the Apache, one of the mods commented only the other day that the release date is still scheduled for the end of the month. If that changes? So be it. Why do we need more photos?? I'm fairly sure all the photos we have cover just about every nut and bolt of the thing. This is my opinion and feeling about your post. I agree with the OP - wait patiently. In the meantime, you know, do other stuff with your life I guess? 4 - i7-7700k - 32GB DDR4 2400Mhz - GTX 1080 8GB - Installed on SSD - TM Warthog DCS Modules - A-10C; M-2000C; AV8B; F/A-18C; Ka-50; FC-3; UH-1H; F-5E; Mi-8; F-14; Persian Gulf; NTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiazusa Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, WobblyFlops said: TM? Another example, the A-10 still doesn't have the COMM page implemented. What if the Apache were to leave EA without the COM page? IIRC,the original DCS A-10C is a high-fidelity Desk Top Simulation of the Suite 3 A-10C developed for the U.S. Air National Guard and for pilot training purpose. Then re-programed into a game and first got EA release in 2010.However the COMM page is not part of the Suit 3 A-10C and was added to the real aircraft on 1 May ,2009. Only hafe year before our game version got first published.The TM manual on the internet was published in 2012,one year after the full release of our game version. Their is a change list of what was added to the real aircraft at what time at the very beginning of the TM.By the time our game version Suite 3 a-10c got a full release,they already started upgrading Suite 6 Software and Hardware on the real aircraft. So there wasn't anything wrong for our A-10C without the COMM page. And it is already a feature that is going to be added into the A-10C II before it's done. Just be patient and don't push the dev too much. If they rush their work and get something implemented wrong or buggy,people will complain and ED will have to waste time and resource to re implement them again.It will be a double lose. Also I don't believe real pilot will learn their plane by reading through the thousands pages TM/FCOM page by page,word by word.It's nothing wrong to read ED's manual as long as they write things right. Edited January 15, 2022 by Akiazusa 2 Kyoto Animation forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyvandelft Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Why do we have to go through this crap every. time. there's. a. new. module....It'll get released when it's ready. There are no deadlines, only ESTIMATED Time of Arrival. It's just a game. We all want it, It'll be here. Quit crying like a 3 year old wanting candy. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WobblyFlops Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Akiazusa said: However the COMM page is not part of the Suit 3 A-10C and was added to the real aircraft on 1 May ,2009. Only hafe year before our game version got first published.The TM manual on the internet was published in 2012,one year after the full release of our game version The current in game version, which I was talking about is not exactly a specific suite that's being modelled but regardless it represents the mid 2010s timeframe, so the COMM page would 100% apply to it. And it will not get implemented, just like the missing TGP symbology, HMCS symbology and datalink capabilities. It will only have the new radio and some additional TAD symbology, which by the way was also heavily pruned even in the Suite 3 era back in the day. So the A-10CII will leave EA without the COMM page and I made the comparsion to what if the Apache were to also leave EA without the COM page. 12 hours ago, kgillers3 said: Let me ask you this, if I were to land at whatever airport is near you, and you walked up too me, would you lead off with telling me about the aircraft? Or would you ask and expand your knowledge? The conflict in this situation is not between the forums users and SMEs but between ED and all the forum users, which include SMEs. 12 hours ago, kgillers3 said: Ask those questions > If they're non sensitive they can be answered. This isn't that simple. SMEs on this forum can be under much higher scrutiny in practice than regular users, so if you have access to ITAR restricted but otherwise unclassified material, every piece of information that references that material is not allowed to be discussed on the forum, if ED decide to enforce it. So SMEs will be extremely limited as to what they can talk about when things that they say get uncomfortable for ED, like it was the case for the A-10 with things like the amount of hydraulic pressure generated by windmilling engines, or the actual temperatures during an engine startup. 10 hours ago, Raptor9 said: At the end of the day, nobody on these forums can force anyone else to accept what they say as fact, nor are they required to. It's everyone's choice to believe what they want to believe, just as it is anyone's choice not to engage with the loud minority on these forums. When internet threads turn childish, the adults generally just leave. There's probably some kind of miscommunication here or I don't know. What will likely happen, based on the previous ED modules is that certain things will be outright missing from the module once it releases and it will stay that way forever. People will argue that they should implement certain features (like the MSI for the Hornet), SMEs will confirm that to be the case (if it's not sensitive) and yet nothing will change whatsoever. Once the module will have been out for 2 years and we'll see the missing or simplified systems or functionality, if the SMEs actually want an accurate rendition, they will be on the same page as everyone else. This is how it's always been historically, ever since the days of the original A-10C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huchanronaa Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 R&D progress stalled? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Doubtful. I'm sure people are lined up around the block for the Apache. I think ED is just busy working on it. Might not be exciting to report that an electrical system glitch is 75% improved over last week, that sort of thing. Some of the planes, but all of the maps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Boys UK Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 One of the SME's said about a week ago that he had been in a 5 player mission with Wags and some real Apache pilots and they had tested multiplayer and hellfires, including buddy lasing and that it felt good and was working well so I took that as a reason to be optimistic. Two of the helicopters were multicrew and the third was solo and the interaction went well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rongor Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Do we really need a second nonsense thread like this within 5 hours? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Apparently yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnyCook Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 9:16 PM, M1Combat said: Yeah... double edged sword though yeah, maybe, but only for those who don't understand what "early release" means 2 hours ago, Dannyvandelft said: It's just a game..... Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk oh no its not, its DCS, the best combat flight "simulator" ever and i have flown a few 3 Win10 64, GeForce GTX1080 Ti, Rift touch, i5- 2.90GHz(o/c), 16gb Corsair Vengance RAM, X-56 KA-50-3, AH-64D, A10c II, AV-8B, MI-8, Spitfire, Viggen, FC3, F-14, F-15c,FA-18, S/Carrier, CA, Nevada, Normandy 44, Channel, Persian gulf, Marianas, Syria, Sth Atlantic, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 15, 2022 ED Team Share Posted January 15, 2022 Threads merged. As already mentioned our plan is still for the end of the month if that changes we will let you know. Thank you 4 7 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnyCook Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 My first real ride 4 Win10 64, GeForce GTX1080 Ti, Rift touch, i5- 2.90GHz(o/c), 16gb Corsair Vengance RAM, X-56 KA-50-3, AH-64D, A10c II, AV-8B, MI-8, Spitfire, Viggen, FC3, F-14, F-15c,FA-18, S/Carrier, CA, Nevada, Normandy 44, Channel, Persian gulf, Marianas, Syria, Sth Atlantic, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buschwick Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Mine 9 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Thunder Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Buschwick said: Mine I played the heck out of SWOTL in the 90’s on my dad’s 486. I even ported that over into DosBox for when I’m in the mood for a little retro gaming. 2 PC: MSI X670E, Ryzen 9 7900X, 64GB DDR5 RAM, RTX 3090 Ti, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight pedals, Opentrack Link to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/DieselThunderAviation Commander, 62nd Virtual Fighter Squadron Join the 62nd VFS today! Link to our discord server: https://discord.gg/Z25BSKk84s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buschwick Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Haha....I was on my dad's 386! 9 minutes ago, Diesel_Thunder said: I played the heck out of SWOTL in the 90’s on my dad’s 486. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 486 here…frick I’m old. 2 "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog 762 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Steel Jaw said: 486 here…frick I’m old. My "first" was a Commodore Vic 20, the 486 was ages ahead of that! 3 System: Intel Core i9-9900KF @ 5 Ghz, Z-390 Gaming X, 64Gb DDR4-3200, EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3, Dedicated SSD, HP Reverb G2, Winwing Orion & F-16EX DCS Modules: A-10C II, A/V-8B NA, Bf-109 K4, P-51D, P-47D, F/A-18C, F-14 A/B, F-16 CM, F-86F, JF-17, KA-50 Black Shark 2, UH-1H, Mosquito, AH-64D Longbow Terrains & Tech: Caucasus, Persian Gulf, Normandy, Syria, Nevada, The Channel, Combined Arms, WWII Assets, Supercarrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mad Dog 762 said: My "first" was a Commodore Vic 20, the 486 was ages ahead of that! Atari console and Hellcat Ace. Then a 386sx with Falcon 3…spent countless hours trying to squeeze enough lower memory out to get sound in the Dark Days of DOS. 1 "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: Threads merged. As already mentioned our plan is still for the end of the month if that changes we will let you know. Thank you So in this case, no news is good news(no delay news...) 4 Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1 System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarma Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, unknown said: So in this case, no news is good news(no delay news...) Exactly ! i9 9900k, 64 Go RAM, RTX 4090, Warthog HOTAS Throttle & Stick, Saitek Combat Rudder, MFD Cougar, Trackir 5 Pro, Multipurpose UFC and Oculus Rift S (when I want some VR), http://www.twitch.tv/zarma4074 / https://www.youtube.com/user/Zarma4074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Commodore Pet at technical school - You had 10 minutes before they crashed Lol ! No flight sim on that baby . Vic 20 was a major upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder511 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 When is the Apache Longbow going to be released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioZ Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, thunder511 said: When is the Apache Longbow going to be released If no delays occur the current plan is for late January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrider Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 IBM XT with Fligh Simulator 2.0 Banned by cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaveyDaveyGravy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Seaside said: Commodore Pet at technical school - You had 10 minutes before they crashed Lol Same here......early 80's? The green on black CRT screen did give a cool military vibe though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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