Emacs Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Hi there, I‘m new to the 109 and I‘m currently preparing myself for the Jagdflieger campaign. During some test flights I found I have a hard time to get out of a dive during strafing runs. I know about compression and I have read about the stick forces required in the 109 at high speeds. I‘m not questioning the implemented flight model, but I would know about practical tips for diving and getting out of dives in the 109. Flaps don‘t seem to be an option (way too fast). Trim? Shallower dives? Don‘t strafe at all and leave that to the Antons? What‘s your technique? Cheers, Emacs Edited December 11, 2021 by Emacs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) You could use trim to help yourself. You could also start the dive lower to reduce the speed. You could also put prop gov to manual and go to max RPM to minimise acceleration (just be cautious to not overrev). Doing a shallower dive may also help. So you see, you have quite a few tools at your disposal. Edited December 11, 2021 by razo+r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emacs Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 Hi Razo+r ok, I will experiment then. Haven‘t thought about the manual prop gov. Good idea ! Cheers, Emacs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) Perhaps that "way too fast" is the key, watch you aren't too fast before diving, and cutting out engine, maybe not necessarily idle but half throttle for instance, would help also instead of starting to dive at 500IAS and 1.4Ata&full throttle. Edited December 11, 2021 by Ala13_ManOWar "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormBat Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I find the flaps do work great when I dive bomb from 3 to 4k or do strafing runs. Before you dive to strafe or dive bomb, put your flaps to bar 2(look on your wings to see them, Black bars 1 to 4, Red being for landing) then turn into target, lower your throttle, or throttle right down, depending on height and angle of attack. Once you make your attack you will see how much easier it is to pull up and fly out with success. make sure to start putting flaps back up while pulling up after the attack to keep your speed, and always dodge, you don't want to make it easy for the enemy to shoot you back. Hope that helps mate. Cheers. 1 X570S AORUS PRO AX MOTHERBOARD, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 8-core Processor, GIGABYTE GEFORCE RTX 3090 TI, 64GB DDR4(Corsair Vengeance LPX), DARK ROCK PRO 4 250W TDP Heatsink, Corsair AX1600i Power Supply, 2TB SSD, Windows 10 64 Bit VR: HP Reverb G2, VIRPIL: VPC Constellation ALPHA Prim[R], VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just trim for dive System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 On 12/11/2021 at 10:11 PM, grafspee said: Just trim for dive How would you do that in practice, @grafspee? Just trim nose up prior to starting your dive or? Spoiler W10-x64 | Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra | Core i7 9700K @ 4.8Ghz | Noctua NH-D15 Corsair 32Gb 3200 | MSI RTX 3080ti Gaming X Asus Xonar AE | TM Hotas Warthog MFG Crosswind pedals | Valve Index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 @Mud exactly 1 System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco.bernardi Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Sometimes i open the radiator like a air brake to reduce the dive speed and use a trim to help to noseup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, greco.bernardi said: Sometimes i open the radiator like a air brake to reduce the dive speed and use a trim to help to noseup. Putting prop into manual and then to high rpm is much more effective than trying to brake with open radiators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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