Splash Damage 2.0 script (make explosions better!)

[JeffreyC]

1 hour ago, markturner1960 said:

Sorry, I have looked but cant find how to load the script within the mission editor? It has to be loaded manually into every mission you want the new effects in, is that correct? 

Create a mission start under triggers (i think it's what it's called) to run the script file for each mission you want to use it with.

[markturner1960]

Can you be a bit more specific please? I cant see any options or drop downs or choices in anything in the ME that has to do with triggers? 

[zildac]

Can you be a bit more specific please? I cant see any options or drop downs or choices in anything in the ME that has to do with triggers? 

The trigger icon looks like a switch in a circuit diagram. Left side of the ME. Am away from pc at the moment unfortunately.

[zildac]

Trigger icon:
 

 
Then add the trigger (new trigger - mission start) )and specify the script file on the actions (don't worry about the trigger name)
 

Edited May 7, 2022 by zildac

[markturner1960]

Perfect, thanks Zildac! Where does the .lua file go?

Edited May 7, 2022 by markturner1960

[zildac]

Perfect, thanks Zildac!

You're welcome. Working?

[zildac]

7 minutes ago, markturner1960 said:

Perfect, thanks Zildac! Where does the .lua file go?

 

You can put the LUA file wherever you like on the filesystem, I believe it gets "imported" into the miz file so even if you delete it or move it at a later date it doesn't matter. When you select the "Do Script" action, it will ask you for the location of the LUA file.

Edited May 7, 2022 by zildac

[markturner1960]

trying it now!!

[markturner1960]

And its working, thanks all! 

[Teeks]

Anyway to display damage done with the splash damage like the direct hit display?

Currently damage is only displayed on the right with a hit that would damage the target without the script installed, which is fine but it'd be nice to have some damage feedback on screen of the damage being done by the splash also

[Rick50]

Usually in real life splash damage would only be seen a little bit, for a fraction of a second, only if close to the target... close enough to be injured yourself. At a distance there's nothing to see... plus, that's only for high amounts of large/heavy fragmentation , like a GMLRS or 155mm artillery shell, smaller ordnance frag is  near invisible. Fragmentation comes in different sizes, to accomplish different goals in smaller and larger devices. Even with handgrenades, the WW2 Mills or Pineaple frag is HUGE, while a M-67 with notched wire is downright tiny pieces that don't seem like they'd do much of anything.

That said, I'd really like to see a different project get started with more varried and random interesting secondary explosions... 

 

 

Edited May 13, 2022 by Rick50

[Mistermann]

@Grimm - Thanks for this!  I am playing around with the script for a heli mission I am tinkering with.  I downloaded the script from the OP.  BUT ... i noticed that the download from page 2 where you added the rocket multipliers is different from the OP (but named the same).  Is that intentional?  

You may want to simply keep that first post current and direct folks there to avoid unnecessary confusion from us fans of your work.

Thanks!!

[MsKatze]

Hi, Grimm!

I have utilized your modified explosion script in my own mission. The effect is absolutely impressive! Thank you for bringing us such a realistic modification! 

However I do find that the script seems not to work very well with my WWII missions, specifically B-17s and Ju.88s. I have set the AIs to perform a high altitude level bombing, and I have ordered them to drop all bombs on target. The first part of the bomb load dropped out of the aircraft just fine, but the bombs coming out last exploded while still within the bomb bay, destroying the whole bomber formation. I have tested using the vanilla game, it does not cause this issue using my current AI set-up. I wonder if it is possible for you to have a look at this issue and thank you in advance!

Edited June 19, 2022 by MsKatze

[Mistermann]

@Grimm

I just want to express my gratitude to you for this masterpiece.  I am getting back into fast movers (Viper) and setting up training scenarios on the new SA map.  Having a blast (pun intended).  

I hadn't initially included your script in these missions and was a bit disappointed in how little impact damage some of the ordinance was having on tightly grouped trucks, APCs, etc.  Then I remembered your script.  Once I added, the damage was night and day.  Now when an LGB, or Cluster, or even a dumb bomb impacts, there's a real damage radius along with secondary explosions as targets cook off.

Love it!  

Edited June 20, 2022 by Mistermann

[Grimm]

On 6/19/2022 at 2:24 AM, MsKatze said:

Hi, Grimm!

I have utilized your modified explosion script in my own mission. The effect is absolutely impressive! Thank you for bringing us such a realistic modification! 

However I do find that the script seems not to work very well with my WWII missions, specifically B-17s and Ju.88s. I have set the AIs to perform a high altitude level bombing, and I have ordered them to drop all bombs on target. The first part of the bomb load dropped out of the aircraft just fine, but the bombs coming out last exploded while still within the bomb bay, destroying the whole bomber formation. I have tested using the vanilla game, it does not cause this issue using my current AI set-up. I wonder if it is possible for you to have a look at this issue and thank you in advance!

 

That looks fine.

Jk.  I'd be interested in having a look if you can provide the .miz?  Not sure off hand how the script would cause this to happen.

[MsKatze]

33分钟前，Grimm说：

That looks fine.

Jk.  I'd be interested in having a look if you can provide the .miz?  Not sure off hand how the script would cause this to happen.

Sure, here is the miz file, and thank you for your attention

test_ww2.miz

[Mistermann]

I have used this script extensively during my Viper “training” and it has me wondering a bit … please realize this is coming from someone who’s never seen combat, let alone A2G combat. 

I have a mission where I am bombing an airport with lots of targets around the runway.  These are mostly “soft” targets (trucks).  Below is a diagram of how I have this setup.

When I drop ordinance targeting the leftmost Ural-375 or the rightmost Ural-4320 it often takes out all 7 trucks.  Not all at once as the outermost trucks tend to take damage and cookoff over a small amount of time.  Sometimes, the blast even takes out the SKP-11.

This is extremely satisfying, BTW.  I, however, am wondering how to tone down the effect a bit.  Instead of going in and changing every weapon in the explTable, I am thinking about implementing a reduction factor in the global variables just to make it easy to maintain.

I believe I have the proper place in the script to modify below.  This code is contained in the blastWave function.

It appears to me that the author already has a power factor getting applied to the blast wave.  If I read the code right (I haven’t coded in ages, so might be wrong), they are taking the “power” from the explTable for the specific weapon used and then manipulating it in order to reduce the effectiveness. 

For instance, let’s say I am dropping a Mk-84.

Looking at the table, it has a power setting of 582.

The “scaled power_factor” variable therefore becomes (0.006 * 582 + 1) = 4.492

This number is then used to calculate intensity, surface damage, explosion size, etc.

So two questions

1 - Can anyone explain why the 0.006 factor was chosen?  I suspect trial and error.  This variable appears to be exactly what I am trying to add so I think I can simply edit it to a smaller number to drive down the intensity.

2 - What does the number 582 mean in the explTable?  When I look online at the explosive on this particular ordinance it says 945lbs (=428kg), so I am just curious where this number comes from.  [Answer:  After searching around the internet, this number appears to be the "TNT Equivalent" number in Kg published in various places]

For those who lasted through this thread thanks for reading.  Anyone with answers, thank you in advance.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Mistermann
Answered question #2

[Mistermann]

I took the Red Pill and fell into the rabbit hole of blast radius based on TNT equivalents.  I was hoping to find a site that would allow me to type in TNT amount and spit out some radius estimates around lethality.  As a PSA, here's a site (from the United Nations) that may help anyone who's swallowed the same pill.  

https://unsaferguard.org/un-saferguard/blast-damage-estimation

Here's the results for the MK-84 and variants

Edited June 22, 2022 by Mistermann

[LaCrepe_]

Hey there!

Some users reported that their CBU-105 aren't doing the same kind of damages when the script is loaded or not (less when loaded). Can you let me know how to fix this?

Thanks

[Chad Vader]

Does this script increase the damage from the gb6 glide bombs on the jeff? 

[Teeks]

Anyone know the script-name of the Viggen's bombs (M/71) and Mavericks (RB-75)?

[titi69]

Hi

Nice work

i am collecting some weapons name from DCS logs to had few ones mssing from new mirage f1 for example

Regarding the explTable values: are they related to total weight or when available the warhead weight?

also when i enable missing weapon option i got error message that is stoping the mission until i acknowledge the log message, is there a way to make logs silent and get only in game message for missing weapon?

[leonardo_c]

I extended the script with some other weapons that were missing:

["AGM_65D"] = 130,
  ["AGM_65E"] = 300,
  ["AGM_65F"] = 300,
  ["AGM_65H"] = 300,
  ["AGM_65K"] = 300,
  ["AGM_65L"] = 300,
  ["HOT3"] = 15,
  ["AGR_20A"] = 8,
  ["AGR_20_M282"] = 8,                          -- A10C APKWS
  ["GBU_54_V_1B"] = 118,
  ["CBU_52B"] = 32,                             -- CBUs
  ["CBU_87"] = 32,
  ["CBU_97"] = 32,
  ["CBU_99"] = 32,
  ["ROCKEYE"] = 32,
  ["MATRA_F4_SNEBT251"] = 8,                    -- Mirage F1 Section
  ["MATRA_F4_SNEBT253"] = 8,
  ["MATRA_F4_SNEBT256"] = 8,
  ["MATRA_F1_SNEBT253"] = 8,
  ["MATRA_F1_SNEBT256"] = 8,
  ["SAMP400LD"] = 274,
  ["SAMP400HD"] = 274,
  ["SAMP250HD"] = 118,
  ["BLU107B_DURANDAL"] = 274,
  ["FFAR Mk5 HEAT"] = 8,                        -- Rockets
  ["FFAR Mk1 HE"] = 8,
  ["C5"] = 8                                    -- Mig19P Rockets

Splash_Damage_2.lua

Edited October 3, 2022 by leonardo_c
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[Mr_Blastman]

Any chance adding Soviet S8 and S5 rockets to script?  They are woefully undereffective against ground targets in their current non-splash state.

[Cpt_Deep]

On 10/4/2022 at 1:04 AM, leonardo_c said:

I extended the script with some other weapons that were missing:

["AGM_65D"] = 130,
  ["AGM_65E"] = 300,
  ["AGM_65F"] = 300,
  ["AGM_65H"] = 300,
  ["AGM_65K"] = 300,
  ["AGM_65L"] = 300,
  ["HOT3"] = 15,
  ["AGR_20A"] = 8,
  ["AGR_20_M282"] = 8,                          -- A10C APKWS
  ["GBU_54_V_1B"] = 118,
  ["CBU_52B"] = 32,                             -- CBUs
  ["CBU_87"] = 32,
  ["CBU_97"] = 32,
  ["CBU_99"] = 32,
  ["ROCKEYE"] = 32,
  ["MATRA_F4_SNEBT251"] = 8,                    -- Mirage F1 Section
  ["MATRA_F4_SNEBT253"] = 8,
  ["MATRA_F4_SNEBT256"] = 8,
  ["MATRA_F1_SNEBT253"] = 8,
  ["MATRA_F1_SNEBT256"] = 8,
  ["SAMP400LD"] = 274,
  ["SAMP400HD"] = 274,
  ["SAMP250HD"] = 118,
  ["BLU107B_DURANDAL"] = 274,
  ["FFAR Mk5 HEAT"] = 8,                        -- Rockets
  ["FFAR Mk1 HE"] = 8,
  ["C5"] = 8                                    -- Mig19P Rockets

Splash_Damage_2.lua 19.98 kB · 16 downloads

 

AGM-65H=AGM-65D≠AGM-65E/F/K/L

The value of AMG65 is not very correct. A missile can kill 4 vehicles include 2*T72, When AGM-65H=300.

The correct value of AMG65 is Warhead weighs 58.7 kg (charge mass 37.6 kg)——AGM-65H=AGM-65D=38      

 

Edited October 7, 2022 by Cpt_Deep