Vampyre Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 I think he was trying to focus on American Phantoms... only problem is that he threw the K in there which was Royal Navy. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said: It's only the -21 that's a later, heavier version. If Mag3 wants to give us a MiG-21F-13 or a MiG-21PF, I certainly wouldn't complain. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/25/2021 at 10:15 PM, Mars Exulte said: G? What happened to F?! good point... Yes Germany flew the F model for many years. AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterH Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 12:25 AM, Gunfreak said: Because we have MiG19, Mig21, and the Huey. We have the A4 mod, and soon A6 and F4. MiG-21Bis we have is more capable than those served in Vietnam war (though some may argue it's also somewhat less agile, which I'm not sure if I agree). A-6 and A-7 we are getting will almost certainly be post Vietnam too, with much better capabilities than those in Vietnam. I would hope, same goes for the F-4. Later 70s and 80s is a great period for DCS and it is getting filled up. Even MiG-19 and UH-1 aren't quite the right versions but they are close enough to roleplay Vietnam era birds I guess. For the rest, you'll need to wait for Leatherneck's F-8 which seems to be quite a bit in the future from now, and hope Red Star Simulations can really pull it off with their MiG-17 and become a new DCS dev. F-4 really isn't just about Vietnam, and it doesn't need to be either. Like others have said F-4E has a long and rich history worldwide. It still serves in Greek and Turkish air forces, albeit in heavily upgraded forms. But mostly standard F-4Es still served up until some years ago. Iran still operates F-4Es too. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toni Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 We need a SU-22 Fiter ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunfreak Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 4 hours ago, WinterH said: MiG-21Bis we have is more capable than those served in Vietnam war (though some may argue it's also somewhat less agile, which I'm not sure if I agree). A-6 and A-7 we are getting will almost certainly be post Vietnam too, with much better capabilities than those in Vietnam. I would hope, same goes for the F-4. Later 70s and 80s is a great period for DCS and it is getting filled up. Even MiG-19 and UH-1 aren't quite the right versions but they are close enough to roleplay Vietnam era birds I guess. For the rest, you'll need to wait for Leatherneck's F-8 which seems to be quite a bit in the future from now, and hope Red Star Simulations can really pull it off with their MiG-17 and become a new DCS dev. F-4 really isn't just about Vietnam, and it doesn't need to be either. Like others have said F-4E has a long and rich history worldwide. It still serves in Greek and Turkish air forces, albeit in heavily upgraded forms. But mostly standard F-4Es still served up until some years ago. Iran still operates F-4Es too. We fly 1942 missions and campaigns with late 1944 109s. We fly 1980s F16 missions with a 2007 F16. We are never gonna get all perfect matches. Weapons can be restricted and it will be close enough. The F4 dropping Napalm is THE iconic view of the F4. But when you have like 10 planes that almost matches. It would be stupid not to have a map to match. 1 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 3090, 64Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Iconic to you, not to others. Even other Americans. For an airframe as successful and widely exported as the F-4, that's extremely hard to pin down. Though, I think UH-1H's did see service in 'nam? Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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