fps very low at outpost for missions 5.1 and 5.2

[lefuneste01]

Hello,

I wonder if this is the same bug than this one  :https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/287270-cluster-munition-craters-cause-huge-fps-drop-what-is-hmdendframe/page/2/#comment-4852258 but I go below 20 fps when looking at some directions around outpost. This makes the whole mission unpleasant, especially when you should mark vehicles but you have to flight in a slideshow...I know this is not your fault, this is just to inform you.

At last, missions 5.1 and 5.2 and 6 are really hard. Even without the performance issue, I had to replay them a lot of time with tracks (untill it is possible, is some parts the track can not reproduce what I did, so the hello crash) in order to finish them and skip them in the campaign...

Bad weather + non flat landing areas + small landing zone surrounded by trees + ennemy activity + long missions + performance issue, that's a lot. Maybe you should have split them in more parts to allow beginners to do them piece by piece in a easiest way.

By the way, thanks for the annotation in maps. It makes things clearer.

Edited December 24, 2021 by lefuneste01

[CHPL]

@lefuneste01

Hello
I use a 6 year old PC with a 1080TI and have no FPS problems in the missions. 
However, for older PC's and weaker graphics cards, the new weather can become a problem.
You are the first to report this so far though.
You should avoid flying over the battlefield and interfering though. Any amount of tracers can drop the FPS into the bottomless pit.

As for the difficulty of the campaign and the individual missions.

First of all my respect. You've already made it this far and have proven a high degree of willpower and discipline. 

Is the campaign suitable for beginners?

If you want to succeed quickly and have fun? No.
If you want to learn the actual helicopter flying the hard way? Absolutely.

There is a big difference between flying in a helicopter and working with a helicopter. Here you have to work.
But I can offer you 1 to 2 hours of online training to bring you to a level that will make it much easier for you.  As in any job, it's all about knowing how. 

The question of mission duration has been there from the beginning and for the upcoming campaign we will try to offer some help. However, missions will not be shorter, because I think that by start fly there, do your thing and fly back in less than 30-40 minutes any sense of realism is lost.

Flying generally means waiting and taking care. Many jet pilots who try their hand at helicopter flying find this particularly difficult.

 

[lefuneste01]

1 hour ago, CHPL said:

@lefuneste01

I use a 6 year old PC with a 1080TI and have no FPS problems in the missions.

Are you playing in VR ?

[CHPL]

No. I use a 3k Display. 

[lefuneste01]

1 hour ago, CHPL said:

No. I use a 3k Display. 

So it should be the reason why you did not feel it, because in VR you divide fps by a factor 2. In order to have a smooth experience you need at least 30 fps with reprojection => >60 fps in 2D.

See here for an example of strange game behaviour : https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/289444-example-of-50-of-fps-loss-for-a-reason-not-obvious-to-guess/#comment-4852337.        

I like the way you design missions and the campaign, but I also have a real life and a family.

So it's a balance between free time to fly and time to spend to do the mission. It should not be easy, as I said you should be worth of the Huey at the end of this campaign.

But unfortunatelly there is no save feature in the game, and even if rack replay is doing the job most of the time,  sometime it is not accurate enough to replay very tricky moment and your Huey will crash....

So that's why it may be an help for replayability to split long missions into different parts. But it should not involve spending too much time for mission building...That's a difficult balance.

Flying in VR in an helo is very immersive but also a bit tiring, especially if fps are too low (I crashed the Huey more than once because it was a bit too stuttering to detect and react quickly enough on my too rough landing approach)

Edited December 25, 2021 by lefuneste01

[lefuneste01]

Hello,

I made more analysis on the fps issue for missions 5.x and 6.

I used a track I made for mission 6.

At first, I do not know why, there are some CPU peaks every 2 seconds...Maybe when mortar fire ?

Then there is the infamous bug with crater fps drop, that is fixed by the last version 12 of my mod.

Without the fix option toggled on

With the fix option toggled on

[CHPL]

Thank you for your work time and effort to assist in the search. 

For me at the moment  it is not cleare what the problem was. But as far as i understand you solved it.

Do you use a MOD? And what kind of fix option do you use that can be toggled on and off ?

I do not use VR, so i am an the other side odf the moon in that prospective.  

[lefuneste01]

I use my mod : https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/207154-3dmigoto-vr-mod-for-dcs-label-masking-color-enhancement-sharpen-fxaa-copypaste-of-radio-msg

Most of its features are working also in 2D.

Edited December 30, 2021 by lefuneste01

[CHPL]

@lefuneste01
 

Thanks again for your dedication:
Others certainly use this MOD as well, and there it is good to know what there can be problems with.

Thank you and Happy New Year