elewarr Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) Hello and Merry Christmas, I have a problem with AI Helper Interface position (not heading rectangles but with countermeasures settings dialog below it) in VR. The dialog, while on attached screenshot from PC looks OK, in VR (on HTC Vive at least) is too low and fresnell lenses make it impossible to read. It's even worse with target selection - it's hard to spot the dialog itself, not mentioning the items on the target list. Optimal position in VR would be to present the dialog exactly at the centre of the screen when helper interface heading/pitch rectangles are present Is there a method to modify settings and target selection dialogs position? Thank you, Krystian Edited December 25, 2021 by elewarr It's about countermeasures settings, not heading/pitch/yaw rectangles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elewarr Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 I was able to modify countermeasures dialog position by editing: DCS World\Mods\aircraft\Mi-24P\Cockpit\Scripts\HelperAI\HelperAI_page_common.lua and modifying: local compass_pos = {0, 0} but what about target list, I'm not sure where I can find it. Even better would be, if countermeasures and targets list would stay on the screen and not move with head movement in VR, it would be easier to adjust position to see them properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 since last update, I can no longer see the aim marker for Petrovitch? I used to pull it up ai helper now only the counter measure come on when I press the assigned key. " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 71st_Mastiff said: since last update, I can no longer see the aim marker for Petrovitch? I used to pull it up ai helper now only the counter measure come on when I press the assigned key. Wait, outside of AI menu, you press key to get AI menu and countermeasures menu shows up? That shouldn't be possible, because it takes 2 presses for that. Do you use any 3rd party programs to manage your bindings? Anyway, check your bindings again, DCS updates are known to mess with settings You can also run repair if everything else fails. Edited January 19, 2022 by admiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, admiki said: Wait, outside of AI menu, you press key to get AI menu and countermeasures menu shows up? That shouldn't be possible, because it takes 2 presses for that. Do you use any 3rd party programs to manage your bindings? Anyway, check your bindings again, DCS updates are known to mess with settings You can also run repair if everything else fails. No it’s key bind single, so the counter measure default has the same default so helper command so only the countermeasure comes on. Don’t know what they did last update. " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 so nothing is working on the petrovich side I mapped those keys and only gat the set up for counter messieurs how do I get the aim Petrovitch cross back? " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Can you screenshot bindings both from pilot and AI helper tab? Edited January 20, 2022 by admiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, admiki said: Can you screenshot bindings both from pilot and AI helper tab? " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team m4ti140 Posted January 20, 2022 ED Team Share Posted January 20, 2022 39 minutes ago, 71st_Mastiff said: You need to bind Petrovich AI Helper - SHOW/HIDE in both Pilot and Petrovich layers. The way I have it mapped is I have all directions on my "Petrovich hat" (same I have bound in Petrovich layer to select options) bound to it in Pilot layer, and then in Petrovich layer I have ICS trigger first stage mapped to it. So to bring it up I just move the hat in any direction (this way double press immediately selects the option when targetting cross was hidden) and then I tap the first stage of trigger (intercom PTT) to hide it. The inputs won't overlap cause they're in separate layers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) What m4ti140 said, only in pilot tab it's called AI helper interface show/hide (default LCtrl+V) TBH, if you didn't bind that before, I have no idea how you were able to bring up menu in the first place Edited January 20, 2022 by admiki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, admiki said: What m4ti140 said, only in pilot tab it's called AI helper interface show/hide (default LCtrl+V) TBH, if you didn't bind that before, I have no idea how you were able to bring up menu in the first place That’s the way it was working before I would press hat and the crosshair would come on then I would hold down 2 seconds and the weapons part would say getting weapons ready, now it no longer works I had all on one pov, now not possible " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, 71st_Mastiff said: That’s the way it was working before I would press hat and the crosshair would come on then I would hold down 2 seconds and the weapons part would say getting weapons ready, now it no longer works I had all on one pov, now not possible Yes, you can. Use HAT down to activate weapons before activating AI menu. Use HAT right to activate deactivate AI menu (since it has no function in AI menu). Up and left are same functions as before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 7 hours ago, admiki said: Yes, you can. Use HAT down to activate weapons before activating AI menu. Use HAT right to activate deactivate AI menu (since it has no function in AI menu). Up and left are same functions as before. I’m pretty sure her right does something in the countermeasure menu, I think short press changes sides and long press does something else Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, AeriaGloria said: I’m pretty sure her right does something in the countermeasure menu, I think short press changes sides and long press does something else I thought that it will be ignored while in CM menu, just like you can use that same hat for something else when AI menu is off, but unfortunately, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 ok got it all on one hat, like some one said left pov, now the CMS panel in VR is messed up way to low. " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Unfortunatelly, it is that way in VR. TBH, I don't even look at it, since I see what is changed in pop up messages on top right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) On 1/22/2022 at 8:04 AM, admiki said: Unfortunatelly, it is that way in VR. TBH, I don't even look at it, since I see what is changed in pop up messages on top right. I like to set up long cms launches 4x16 wish we had control of how fast though. and CMS chaff against those radar aaa out there in H4. that's where I do a lot of training. Edited January 23, 2022 by 71st_Mastiff " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, 71st_Mastiff said: I like to set up long cms launches 4x16 wish we had control of how fast though. and CMS chaff against those radar aaa out there in H4. that's where I do a lot of training. I know what you mean. What I am saying that I know from my head how my hat is changing CMS. And you can see on top right of your FOV when you change something, you don't need to look at panel itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, 71st_Mastiff said: I like to set up long cms launches 4x16 wish we had control of how fast though. and CMS chaff against those radar aaa out there in H4. that's where I do a lot of training. One way to change speed but not amount per second is to fire one burst from one side then switch to other side and fire another burst. This way you can also launch chaff and flare at same time. if it’s any consolation, the 4 second interval is wrong. When they stenciled the panel the designers had changed the interval from 4/8 seconds to 3/6 seconds. So shortest interval is 3 seconds 1 Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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